Poor/blue collar/rough primarily white areas in B'more? (Baltimore: condo, find a job)

[dogpark]

Originally Posted by JosephM1994

That's your opinion and again its your city. I like localized, straight up blue collar cities. The kind of place where people have lived in the same neighborhood since their great grandpa got off the boat. Young professionals kind of dilute that. I don't like their culture, the "I went to college" trendy crap grates on me. Again not my city, but although I have what I want here in NYC but it's confined to the bottom third of Queens, BK and SI and I'm kind of sick of getting frustrated or feeling all "stranger in a strange land" and "ew yuppies"!every time I leave my neighborhood. Not my city, so on to the next...thanks though

Maybe you'd like the midwest, where change happens at a slower pace. Baltimore is in the NE corridor and changing. Evolve or die, that's life.

[JosephM1994]

Originally Posted by dogpark

Maybe you'd like the midwest, where change happens at a slower pace. Baltimore is in the NE corridor and changing. Evolve or die, that's life.

Thanks for the lecture. I just like more blue collar places. That is all. Where in the Midwest? Detroit? Chicago? It's all the same. The prescense of a significant white collar element just ain't my thing. I avoid it here but if I move to another city and leave home it's will be to a place where I don't have to avoid large chunks of the city.


Again, thanks for the lecture. Was unsolicited though.

[dogpark]

Originally Posted by JosephM1994

Thanks for the lecture. I just like more blue collar places. That is all. Where in the Midwest? Detroit? Chicago? It's all the same. The prescense of a significant white collar element just ain't my thing. I avoid it here but if I move to another city and leave home it's will be to a place where I don't have to avoid large chunks of the city.


Again, thanks for the lecture. Was unsolicited though.

Not a lecture at all, a suggestion - meant to be helpful. Seems like an industrial/light manufacturing area is what you are describing? Maybe with agricultural roots or agriculture nearby? Industry has largely left Baltimore, just like Pittsburgh etc; lots of these cities are going with services (financial, health), colleges etc. This is these cities evolving as manufacturing is less of an economic engine for them.

Good luck finding a place you are comfortable.

[JosephM1994]

Originally Posted by dogpark

Not a lecture at all, a suggestion - meant to be helpful. Seems like an industrial/light manufacturing area is what you are describing? Maybe with agricultural roots or agriculture nearby? Industry has largely left Baltimore, just like Pittsburgh etc; lots of these cities are going with services (financial, health), colleges etc. This is these cities evolving as manufacturing is less of an economic engine for them.

Good luck finding a place you are comfortable.

Agriculture? Huh? I work on cars for a living and I'm from Brooklyn..


I just want somewhere with less this:



Or this:



And more this:




Or this:



Or this:

[Infinite_heights77]

Why not embrace both blue collar and cosmopolitan lifestyles? Tactfully, you can do both!

Originally Posted by JosephM1994

Agriculture? Huh? I work on cars for a living and I'm from Brooklyn..


I just want somewhere with less this:



Or this:



And more this:




Or this:



Or this:

[Infinite_heights77]

Yeah, isn't the city of Cleveland like that?!

Originally Posted by dogpark

Maybe you'd like the midwest, where change happens at a slower pace. Baltimore is in the NE corridor and changing. Evolve or die, that's life.

[Infinite_heights77]

"Young professionals kind of dilute that. I don't like their culture, the "I went to college" trendy crap grates on me."

*No they don't! Some of the locals decided to stay in their stagnant little places, not moving, creating or providing new ideas of innovation. I'm speaking up for young professionals because some of them truly want change for the better, thus, adding context and more texture in this urban landscape we call The American City. People are proud of their educational accomplishments and should be. DON'T HATE!!! Learn from them. Man, if you're from Brooklyn, why not take some class at LIU, Medgar Evers or a SUNY/CUNY branch to grab some knowledge. Colleges and universities are exciting places and worlds all unto themselves.

The limitations of Blue Collar thinking..

Originally Posted by JosephM1994

Thanks for the lecture. I just like more blue collar places. That is all. Where in the Midwest? Detroit? Chicago? It's all the same. The prescense of a significant white collar element just ain't my thing. I avoid it here but if I move to another city and leave home it's will be to a place where I don't have to avoid large chunks of the city.


Again, thanks for the lecture. Was unsolicited though.

[Woodlands]

Dundalk is the home of Waterbillies.....That was in the comment section of one of the links... NOW I have heard everything...

[Infinite_heights77]

My ex-was from East New York! It's about as blue collar and no collar as you can get, if you can find a job up there. They are revitalizing and revamping all those Brooklyn, New York neighborhoods. Anytime I see $2million dollar condos not to far from Pitkin Avenue, you know the game is about over!

Originally Posted by JosephM1994

That's your opinion and again its your city. I like localized, straight up blue collar cities. The kind of place where people have lived in the same neighborhood since their great grandpa got off the boat. Young professionals kind of dilute that. I don't like their culture, the "I went to college" trendy crap grates on me. Again not my city, but although I have what I want here in NYC but it's confined to the bottom third of Queens, BK and SI and I'm kind of sick of getting frustrated or feeling all "stranger in a strange land" and "ew yuppies"!every time I leave my neighborhood. Not my city, so on to the next...thanks though

[Infinite_heights77]

"This is these cities evolving as manufacturing is less of an economic engine for them..."

*Read Joel Kotkin's work! The plans to re-arrange and re-structure these urban cities were in the plans years ago, and New York City lead the way.

Originally Posted by dogpark

Not a lecture at all, a suggestion - meant to be helpful. Seems like an industrial/light manufacturing area is what you are describing? Maybe with agricultural roots or agriculture nearby? Industry has largely left Baltimore, just like Pittsburgh etc; lots of these cities are going with services (financial, health), colleges etc. This is these cities evolving as manufacturing is less of an economic engine for them.

Good luck finding a place you are comfortable.