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Far Right anti Immigration parties have done well in The Netherlands recent election, been elected in Italy, on the rise in France and Germany , but seemingly little influence in the Anglosphere, outside of some extremes in England which doesn't get far in elections as well as elements within the Republican Party in The United States.
Australia, like United Kingdom, and I believe Canada and New Zealand, are experiencing record immigration. Largely unwanted, with out universities enticing too often low quality students and in turn becoming visa factories.
Australia, at least from appearance indicate a somewhat blase attitude to the unfolding situation. Rentals have never been more difficult to obtain. House prices in Sydney are at twenty times the average earnings, making it close to impossible for average wage earners. The rest of the country is something like fifteen times normal yearly income.
Surely this is neither good for newly arrived migrant or local? But can this situation remain? It does seem hard to see just where a reaction may come from. All main parties seem in favour of a Big Australia , regardless of outcomes. There has been a little murmuring on the sidelines, but nothing yet loud enough to focus attention on. Sometimes, one does wonder, if Australians really care that much.
The median household income in Sydney was $108,000 in 2021. The median house price is currently around $1,300,000 and median dwelling price is around $1,100,000. So not twenty times, though certainly high.
You will see it is the norm to have been born overseas or have parents who were. So I suppose people would feel hypocritical if strongly opposing immigration. Certainly some people call for a slowdown but the shortage of staff in so many fields causes anxiety, so it is a balancing act by the government.
Far Right anti Immigration parties have done well in The Netherlands recent election, been elected in Italy, on the rise in France and Germany , but seemingly little influence in the Anglosphere, outside of some extremes in England which doesn't get far in elections as well as elements within the Republican Party in The United States.
Australia, like United Kingdom, and I believe Canada and New Zealand, are experiencing record immigration. Largely unwanted, with out universities enticing too often low quality students and in turn becoming visa factories.
Australia, at least from appearance indicate a somewhat blase attitude to the unfolding situation. Rentals have never been more difficult to obtain. House prices in Sydney are at twenty times the average earnings, making it close to impossible for average wage earners. The rest of the country is something like fifteen times normal yearly income.
Surely this is neither good for newly arrived migrant or local? But can this situation remain? It does seem hard to see just where a reaction may come from. All main parties seem in favour of a Big Australia , regardless of outcomes. There has been a little murmuring on the sidelines, but nothing yet loud enough to focus attention on. Sometimes, one does wonder, if Australians really care that much.
Far right political parties will never do well in Australia.
There’s just no need for them.
The house prices are a complex issue, and it has well and truly spilled over into regional Australia now too.
The Covid pandemic, with people working from home etc, further fuelled this situation.
University education is definitely a big draw card to Australia, and immigration too.
Many overseas students may stay, but many local Australians also leave too.
Yes, mediocre students can all be tertiary educated now, and that’s not such a terrible thing.
Overseas students have to cough up a lot of money now though.
For local stud7, the HECS or HELP debt will be crippling for many years of their lives.
The cost of an education has to be weighed up against the benefits.
Nothing much has changed in all of that.
The median household income in Sydney was $108,000 in 2021. The median house price is currently around $1,300,000 and median dwelling price is around $1,100,000. So not twenty times, though certainly high.
You will see it is the norm to have been born overseas or have parents who were. So I suppose people would feel hypocritical if strongly opposing immigration. Certainly some people call for a slowdown but the shortage of staff in so many fields causes anxiety, so it is a balancing act by the government.
Only six cities in the world are above Sydney in unaffordable rankings in 2023. That does not include the two Alpha cities of London and New York. (they follow Sydney in rankings) Hong Kong remains the most expensive (perhaps a bit odd with so many leaving/left for UK and other destinations)
Sydney thus is regarded as extremely over valued. The twenty times claim was a figure given, but thirteen and a half seems to be a more common cited figure.
I don't see the falling living standards being brought on in a large part by the turbo immigration, un needed in many quarters, and a lot are international students whose intent was to remain anyway. With so much organised crime in Sydney resulting from high immigration as in other cities, further needs to more carefully account for just who is being allowed into the country.
Far right political parties will never do well in Australia.
There’s just no need for them.
The house prices are a complex issue, and it has well and truly spilled over into regional Australia now too.
The Covid pandemic, with people working from home etc, further fuelled this situation.
University education is definitely a big draw card to Australia, and immigration too.
Many overseas students may stay, but many local Australians also leave too.
Yes, mediocre students can all be tertiary educated now, and that’s not such a terrible thing.
Overseas students have to cough up a lot of money now though.
For local stud7, the HECS or HELP debt will be crippling for many years of their lives.
The cost of an education has to be weighed up against the benefits.
Nothing much has changed in all of that.
I think I mentioned in none of the Anglosphere countries do Far Right do well. Although Hanson did well , especially in country regions in the late nineties.
If conditions fall further, crime gets out of hand, corruption becomes ever more the norm , housing savages incomes be it in purchase or rental, who can tell how the tide may shift.
It was pre pandemic. But has been boosted by massive population increase , the worrying drug industry, which is massive (working from home) along with the massive increase in international students.
Good to see the apparent clamp down of questionable international colleges. Seemingly many students only used as a means to enter the country , then too often get involved in lucrative illegal activity.
I don't think too many students rely on HECS these days. But I have heard less local students are enrolling in university.
Far Right anti Immigration parties have done well in The Netherlands recent election, been elected in Italy, on the rise in France and Germany , but seemingly little influence in the Anglosphere, outside of some extremes in England which doesn't get far in elections as well as elements within the Republican Party in The United States.
Australia, like United Kingdom, and I believe Canada and New Zealand, are experiencing record immigration. Largely unwanted, with out universities enticing too often low quality students and in turn becoming visa factories.
Australia, at least from appearance indicate a somewhat blase attitude to the unfolding situation. Rentals have never been more difficult to obtain. House prices in Sydney are at twenty times the average earnings, making it close to impossible for average wage earners. The rest of the country is something like fifteen times normal yearly income.
Surely this is neither good for newly arrived migrant or local? But can this situation remain? It does seem hard to see just where a reaction may come from. All main parties seem in favour of a Big Australia , regardless of outcomes. There has been a little murmuring on the sidelines, but nothing yet loud enough to focus attention on. Sometimes, one does wonder, if Australians really care that much.
The United Kingdom is not experiencing record immigration per capita. In fact Ireland today has a higher number of people born overseas per capita than the UK so don't even put it into the same category as New Zealand, Australia and Canada which are ALL nations completely reliant on immigration to fuel economic growth unlike the UK and US.
As for all main parties seem to favor Big Australia. Why are people surprised at this. We live In the 6th biggest nation on earth with the some of the wealthiest resources. The problem isn't with Big Australia policy. It is how it is managed where the wealth of the few is increasing while the middle class are getting hammered. Stop voting in Left or right parties would be a good start
Yes Ireland does on a per capita basis have more entrants. Interesting that the balance of Irish born leaving to those returning has almost become equal.
A fair share of the increase in migrants though, would most likely reflect the Ukranian intake . But now that UK is more difficult to enter for EU nationals, it would be fair to say the likelihood of far more EU nationals heading to Ireland, where previously The UK would have been more in focus.
But whatever. The rise from what was it? 21,000 three years ago to 77,00o to year ending April 2023, and considerable and are reflected in the changing social fabric of Ireland, that I have been hearing about.
Indeed I have considered the move there myself on acquiring an Irish passport, but strains on infrastructure like hospitals for example and housing are serious issues to contemplate , no doubt aggravated by rapid population growth.
It does appear all political parties in Australia are beholden to various business interests regardless of public sentiment. Just keep opposition comments to a minimum and continue peddling the lies of the need for turbo immigration and the mass will be silenced to capitulation. Same applies to other issues.
Being the 6th biggest nation in area has little to do with population suitability in Australia. Most migrants go to same few localities within Australia. Obviously for reasons well foundered, but seriously adds strain to existing facilities. Most of Australia simply cannot accommodate vast numbers of people. Lack of water for one thing.
A lot depends on the type of migrant arriving. Faux qualification students, those entering on pretext to study with real aim to stay and in many instances conduct illegal activity. Organised crime laundering ill gotten gains from overseas or local drug (and other activities) business. (a major concern) Those coming not to contribute but use the system from developing world. The list goes on.
Immigration should be outlawed, full stop. We're full as it is, we don't need any more environmental destruction. Climate change by itself is already killing our lucky country.
Immigration should be outlawed, full stop. We're full as it is, we don't need any more environmental destruction. Climate change by itself is already killing our lucky country.
I'd say the term "Lucky Country is a relic of a time passed. Indeed the term was uttered 'tongue in cheek" by Horne in his book of the same name.
He did say Australia experienced luck in spite of itself . I think immigration in line with traditional numbers of 100,000 or there abouts is fine. It needs to be targeted though at meeting the true shortages and not willy nilly entrants who end up driving cabs, Uber, working in a supermarket of worse of all dealing in drugs (large number) that includes the manufacture of said drugs.
Immigration should be outlawed, full stop. We're full as it is, we don't need any more environmental destruction. Climate change by itself is already killing our lucky country.
Wow, you're basically a Nazi. Not only are you ignorant and a weirdo but you're a Nazi too, i bet you'd cross the street when you see a black person, if only you had any in a 100 mile radius within your wasteland backwater town.
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