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Old 03-10-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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I do give Sprouts better odds thanStars and Strikes which seems to have gone out of its way to pick a crummy location
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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I have driven WAY out of my way to go to the Kroger in the Gateway area on a couple occasions now. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Very valid points were made. Access to and from the selected location is not ideal at all. I'm not sure I agree it would be as well-suited in Grovetown, but Mullins Crossing would have been a definite improvement when it comes to ease of access, traffic counts, population....pretty much EVERYTHING.

And? I even have FACTSS to support it! Population at 1mi, 3mi and 5mi is substantially higher at Mullins Phase 2. Traffic counts of over 10,000 more per day at Mullins. Household income goes up in the 5 miles around Mullins instead of down.
Okay, so you've driven WAY out of your way to go to the Kroger in the Gateway area. The private sector doesn't agree with you. The Kroger is no comparison versus the people who go out of their WAY to visit the Augusta Exchange.

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but Mullins Crossing would have been a definite improvement when it comes to ease of access, traffic counts, population....pretty much EVERYTHING.

And? I even have FACTSS to support it! Population at 1mi, 3mi and 5mi is substantially higher at Mullins Phase 2. Traffic counts of over 10,000 more per day at Mullins. Household income goes up in the 5 miles around Mullins instead of down.
Huh? I must be reading a different map from you... The images you posted have the population at Walton Way and I-20 higher at 3 mile, and 5 mile..

3 mile
Walton Way Extension 66,189
Mullins Crossing 59,020

5 mile
Walton Way Extension 149,479
Mullins Crossing 124,895

But what does that have to do with the number of customers at the Augusta Exchange versus Mullins Crossing? The two are nowhere comparable.

Mullins Crossing has 30 businesses...

The Augusta Exchange has over 50 not even counting the numerous surrounding centers in walking distance.

This is not even a debate. The number of people who shop at Mullins Crossing is NOT even close to the Augusta Exchange.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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but Mullins Crossing would have been a definite improvement when it comes to ease of access, traffic counts, population....pretty much EVERYTHING.

And? I even have FACTSS to support it! Population at 1mi, 3mi and 5mi is substantially higher at Mullins Phase 2. Traffic counts of over 10,000 more per day at Mullins. Household income goes up in the 5 miles around Mullins instead of down.
Mullins Crossing maybe a better location than where you live in North Augusta. North Augusta has a hard time even attracting regular chain restaurants. Even the Gateway exit of Grovetown has better quality businesses than exit 1 or 5 in North Augusta. But private developers won't agree with you in terms of the Augusta Exchange area.

Lol your pumping your chest out because Washington road in Evans has 10,000 more cars per day than Walton Way Extension.. So is the 36,000 in Evans is suppose to be a lot?

I-20 near Walton Way Extension has a ADT of 78,000
http://geocounts.com/gdot/

Why try and compare Washington rd in Evans versus Walton Way Extension? Then not include I-20.. The site is located at I-20 and Walton Way Extension..

You've already claimed the 3 and 5 mile population was higher which is false.. Now you trying to fool people lol by not including all of the traffic counts...

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Old 03-10-2017, 11:04 PM
 
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Why try and compare Washington rd in Evans versus Walton Way Extension? Then not include I-20.. The site is located at I-20 and Walton Way Extension..
Why "try and compare"? Because both are major surface street thoroughfares where the majority of the traffic is there to do business. Adding I-20 into that is ludicrous since the majority of that traffic is made of vehicles with no business here at all. Surprised people don't vomit from dizziness around here from all the spin that comes from you.
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Old 03-10-2017, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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Why "try and compare"? Because both are major surface street thoroughfares where the majority of the traffic is there to do business. Adding I-20 into that is ludicrous since the majority of that traffic is made of vehicles with no business here at all. Surprised people don't vomit from dizziness around here from all the spin that comes from you.
New Grocery Anchored Development on the corner of Interstate 20 and Walton Way Extension
Crane Creek Augusta

The comment above is straight from the developers website. Do you expect anybody to believe developers won't include I-20? Do you honestly believe they will only focus on Walton Way Extension and not the nearby traffic counts on I-20, Wheeler, or Robert C Daniel?

The bias is hilarious on here.. So according to your way of thinking the Costco and Cabela's off I-20 have nothing to do with the interstate. Their only here, because of the traffic on Riverwatch I guess lol...

How can you accuse someone of spinning when you just claimed the 3 mile and 5 mile population of Mullins Crossing is higher? The image you showed had Walton Way Extension 5 mile population over 25,000 higher...
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Old 03-10-2017, 11:20 PM
 
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Back just acpl days and already back to the same ole stuff
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Old 03-11-2017, 03:12 AM
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I have been to Sprouts on Roswell Rd in Sandy Springs. In my opinion nothing to get too excited about.
Secondly I don't think this location on Walton Way Extension is really that great for a grocery store. Customers traveling from the west are not able to get off I-20 at Walton Eay Extension nor are customers leaving Sprouts able to enter I-20 at WW Extension to travel west
Sprouts should have located in Mullins Crossing or the Grovetown/ Lewiston area in my opinion
Wonder how long this market will stay open?
I wish them well but I will not be surprised if they close within a few years due to lack of business.
Mullins crossing would have been further removed from i20 amd and he gateway area is not convenient to the metro area as compared to west Augusta.
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Old 03-11-2017, 03:17 AM
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Yes, Mullins Crossing would have made more sense in many ways. I am sure if Whole Foods had it to do all over again they would have located in Mullins Crossing. Maybe they would still be open. Sprouts atleast would is at a better price point so they might survive at what is admittedly a less than ideal location. It still seems like Evans is a much better fit for their business model. Time will tell
I get it, you think everything should go to Evans. Evans is just not as centrally located as west Augusta, so that's why west Augusta continues to get the most business in the area.
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Old 03-11-2017, 03:20 AM
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Why "try and compare"? Because both are major surface street thoroughfares where the majority of the traffic is there to do business. Adding I-20 into that is ludicrous since the majority of that traffic is made of vehicles with no business here at all. Surprised people don't vomit from dizziness around here from all the spin that comes from you.
Most of that traffic on that stretch of I20 is local traffic. Traffic counts drop significantly on i20 when you leave the area.
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Old 03-11-2017, 03:26 AM
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I have driven WAY out of my way to go to the Kroger in the Gateway area on a couple occasions now. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Very valid points were made. Access to and from the selected location is not ideal at all. I'm not sure I agree it would be as well-suited in Grovetown, but Mullins Crossing would have been a definite improvement when it comes to ease of access, traffic counts, population....pretty much EVERYTHING.

And? I even have FACTSS to support it! Population at 1mi, 3mi and 5mi is substantially higher at Mullins Phase 2. Traffic counts of over 10,000 more per day at Mullins. Household income goes up in the 5 miles around Mullins instead of down.
I think you misread. From the links you posted Mullins crossing has more people within 1 mile but Walton way has more within 3 and 5 miles.
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