Has anyone's opinion on an Outer Perimeter / Outer Bypass changed? (Atlanta: gated, prices)

[bu2]

Originally Posted by HH82

Once upon a time, there was an east-west interstate planned to run between Augusta, GA and Meridian, MS, by way of Macon, Columbus, and Montgomery to meet up with I-20 at both ends. There was also a north-south interstate planned to run from Savannah, GA to Knoxville, TN by way of Augusta and Toccoa to join I-75 in Knoxville. Not sure what happened to these proposals, but I'd prefer them to an Outer Loop.

Not really. They were way outside metro Atlanta. The interstate 3 N-S proposal was killed by those who didn't want a highway through the mountains. The I-14 proposal is alive. Its actually been signed in parts of Texas with the idea to continue to the east. Strategic Highway

[aries4118]

The originally proposed Outer Perimeter:
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[AUGnative]

I could possibly see the rationale of an interstate running from Greenville, SC connecting to Augusta nd then on to Savannah.. would offer an alternate route other than 95 and 75 for Florida traffic.. but there would be no need to build an interstate between Greenville and Knoxvilee, that would go straigh thru the smokey mountains.. and you already have I26 which extends from Greenville to Asheville and connects to I40 that connects to Knoxville and I75. And then I26 extends north from Asheville to Kingsport and connects with I81. and interstate parralleing I20 from Augusta to Meridian, MS is totally unnecessay. Its really not like I20 is heavily congested.

[primaltech]

It's never going to happen, in any form, and I'm not sure that it really should. What we need is to take cars off the freeway. To become less car-dependent. By implementing commuter rail, BRT on the freeways, whatever other mass transit.

Make 285 a bypass again. Take most of the local car traffic off of it, and have it handle the interstate travel and freight.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by primaltech

It's never going to happen, in any form, and I'm not sure that it really should. What we need is to take cars off the freeway. To become less car-dependent. By implementing commuter rail, BRT on the freeways, whatever other mass transit.

Make 285 a bypass again. Take most of the local car traffic off of it, and have it handle the interstate travel and freight.

That is what they call in science fiction, a parallel universe!

285 from I-20 around the north to I-20 on the other side is very heavily congested and used to help get to most of our largest employment centers. Perimeter Center and Cumberland/Galleria are on 285.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by bu2

That is what they call in science fiction, a parallel universe!

285 from I-20 around the north to I-20 on the other side is very heavily congested and used to help get to most of our largest employment centers. Perimeter Center and Cumberland/Galleria are on 285.

Or a congestion / dynamic tolling.

Once our highways are collecting enough direct tolls to both pay to maintain our existing highways and fund a new outer bypass then it is worth talking about. But as of now, we aren't even funding our existing highways well.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by aries4118

The originally proposed Outer Perimeter:
http://www.locationlocationlocation....county_map.gif

For the cost of that project, we could have built a new commuter rail network, extended MARTA, BeltLine transit, and Clifton Corridor.

[AUGnative]

Originally Posted by primaltech

It's never going to happen, in any form, and I'm not sure that it really should. What we need is to take cars off the freeway. To become less car-dependent. By implementing commuter rail, BRT on the freeways, whatever other mass transit.

Make 285 a bypass again. Take most of the local car traffic off of it, and have it handle the interstate travel and freight.

Mass transit is really not viable for the northern suburbs and dealing with people trying to get from say Kennesay to Duluth. YOu have lots of jobs in the northern suburbs..not evenyone is commuting from the burbs to downtown...but the road system in Atlanta asumes that everyone does. There needs to be better east west connection for the northern suburbs..

[Gulch]

Nope. Gigantic waste of money that would have simply fueled sprawl (which was GDOT's main purpose for building it under the guise of "economic development").

[AUGnative]

I have said many times a northern arc should be a toll road. As much as I do not like toll roads, let the people who would use it pay for it. I remember there was a lot of opposition from state legislators outside of the metro Atanta region to the northern arc, because it was going to be a state funded project and felt like the rest of Georgia was being ignored in regards to highway infrastructure. This was mid 90s.