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There were some other references, but I like how this writer sums it up. I was very surprised to learn that SE Asian culture wasn't started in China, but actually was Vietnam. The empire went pretty far north into China. Subsequently after the Hans conquered Vietnam, the history was destroyed and attempted to be rewritten. However, with modern science, genes show Vietnamese as being the primary race that spread, and ancient artifacts and related DNA found show that it was originally Vietnam.
Take a read. It's pretty amazing from what I originally learned in school.
It's a little more scientific for you, but it doesn't draw from as many sources as Thaobabe cites.
Human genome sequencing. Han Chinese genes...contained within Vietnamese. Japanese genes...contained within Vietnamese. Thai genes...contained within Vietnamese.
Vietnam was the cradle...spreading out from cave protected early rice growing regions. DNA found with historic archeological finds.
It makes a lot more sense that the Hans burned out the old empire and invented 5 mythical dragons as passing on information than to note that it was learned from a militarily defeated enemy. Right?
Depends on what you exactly mean by 'Asia'. India is older than East Asian cultures. Lots of SE Asian genetics descend from India as well. There are artifacts from 30,000 years ago in India. The Iranians can also trace their histories back even further.
I agree with u post ,research shows all the Asian populations including pacific island originating from southeast asia but not yet sure whether it is vietnam, malaysia or indonesia (sundalan) but i agree with the latest research all people in south east asia have genetic closeness.if we see this plot of grafic can conclude that the vietnam genetically population is closest to eastern asia especially chinese han and dai. more surprised that ethnic grup in Indonesia have two mixed genetic up ie austroasitic and austronesian https://www.nature.com/articles/srep26066/figures/3
Others studies of genetic of south east asian population make sense or acceptable . but unfortunately vietnam not included in this study
No worries on not having studies on Vietnam. And indeed India has a very old population that developed independently. I've read that the aboriginees of Australia are the oldest group.
So I should have specified Asian as SE Asian, but there's certainly other contenders. However, I grew up learning that Chinese were the oldest and spread to the south. It now seems the inverse was true. SE Asian spread north, northern China being more interlinked with Mongol populations, and eventually moving south via conquest...and using the usual tactics for genetic infusion and historical change.
OK, the general Scientific consensus is that people largely immigrated out of Africa then up North before splitting directions east and west, so clearly civilization would have started first in the Southern parts of Asia before they got up to the colder Northern parts of Asia. That's the only way it makes sense.
However, the oldest Asian culture wouldn't necessarily be Vietnamese though, because there's no such thing as a Vietnamese identity back then, and you can't discount India as the birthplace of some of the oldest mtDNA's and Y-Haplogroups. And some of these "Indian-originated" Y-haplogroups such as the haplogroup D made it to our current-day East Asian populations, such as Tibet and Japan, before there was that wave of numerous O-type haplogroups (originating from Indochina and maritime SE Asia) came up to the Japanese archipelago.
. However, I grew up learning that Chinese were the oldest and spread to the south. It now seems the inverse was true. SE Asian spread north, northern China being more interlinked with Mongol populations, and eventually moving south via conquest...and using the usual tactics for genetic infusion and historical change.
It doesn't sound right. You know ancient China had many tribes and warlords constantly fighting before China was united. China history probably began somewhere 15,000 to 30,000 years ago when the tribes in southern, northern and central China settled down beginning to domesticate animals and raise crops instead of doing hunting and gathering for living. There were scientific evidences and archaeological sites showed China first domesticated pigs, cows, chickens, dogs and farmed wheat, rice and other crops dated anywhere from 15,000 to 30,000 years ago. I have yet found such archaeological sites in Vietnam dated earlier than that time.
Also DNA is very complexed thing. Especially human racial DNA is a very controversial subject. We only have a very limited understanding of it because the government especially the US government bans all such funding and researches because they think the deeper we go into it, the more decisive we become racially. I highly doubt we can progress any further into it beside the very outdated data and preliminary researches. There was a respected Chinese American doing pioneer human racial DNA research. The government stopped funding his project many years ago.
But we know DNA changes as it adapting to new environment and climate. Tibetan DNA changes is a recent phenomenon. Tibetans originally were from central part of China. They migrated and settled to the Tibet plateau many thousands years ago. Their offspring genes have changed as they adapted to the high altitude environment and climate. Today their bodies are functioning pretty well in the place compared to non-Tibetans. They don't have high altitude sickness
Americas natives probably were from East Asia 10,000 years or 20,000 years ago. They DNA changed overtimes as it adapted to the new environment. Today, it is vast different from that of East Asia.
The most plausible explanation based on evidences is that it might be northern and central Chinese migrated down southwards. Overtime, their offspring gene has changed to adjust to that of that of tropical climate and environment. They probably carried their culture to the south with them. Southern Hans have genes similar to that of Malaysia and other SE Asia.
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