I never knew how much I missed Michigan till I lived in Tucson (Sedona: renting, house)

[wordsmith680]

I went x-country skiing out my door in shorts this morning. Only a population of <280k in ALL of the U P. Yes, I'm glad to be here! Winter is a little long in March, but there is always a season to look forward to. I did get a smile out of the OP. Oh, I did not like Ohio winters.......(a good place to be from..)

[xwideopenskyx]

Originally Posted by odinloki1

Ok, because of jobs and other factors I have had to live in Tucson for the past four years. I a moving to Chicago in May and with any luck, after I finish P.A. school I'll get to move back. I miss Michigan so much, I thought I'd list all the reasons

1. The weather. Yes Tucson has so much sunshine. So much sunshine it feels like my retinas are getting burned out (its boring) plus the dry climate makes you feel like if you aren't constantly drinking, you're going to die. I miss the humidity to keep me from drying out. I love the cold. You can layer up at 10-20 degrees. What do you do at 110? Walk around naked and then get skin cancer?

2. The people. Friendly, actual neighborhoods where people live for a long time, not just housing developments where a bunch of transplants just move in and never socialize. There are actual communities in Michigan where people care about the schools.

3. Plants. Actual trees and shade that grow, not these dead stick bush things that they call plants here. This place is a giant sand trap thats gradualy being overrun by this buffelgrass stuff that is going to kill off everything else.

4. Schools. The schools here suck. Yes some of you may want to villify teachers in Michigan, but here, they are basically minimum wage slaves who are treated like crap by students. The school standards are crappy. I'll never raise a child here.

5. Things to do. Boating, hiking, camping running. Here, everything is based on the amount of water you can carry. You can never find shade or take refuge from the giant ball of radiation in the sky. Even in winter you just got to layer up, but you'll never have to worry about dying from dehyration.

6. Lakes. Beautiful lakes with wildlife Lakes so big you can't see across. Beats dried out brown mountains any day.

7. The food. So much better variety and choices there than here. Greek Middle Eastern, African, Italian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican. Its all there. Here its Mexican or chain restaurants or mediocre imitations.

8. Canada. Its a great country with great people that aren't covering our borders with crime and constantly trying to sell you things whenever you go into their country.

9. The cost of living. Houses are affordable there. Here its overpriced housing on tiny tiny lots, or overpriced apartments.

10. Grass. I don't care if it requires some work to maintain (anything worthwhile usually requires some sort of upkeep, I love to walk barefoot and not feel jagged stones digging into my feet.

Tucson has roads that are just as bad (you would think they wouldn't but they just don't want to pay to upkeep them here) unfriendly people (I barely know my neighbors after living here almost 2 years they just all hide inside with locked doors and security signs up), its just as unsafe to ride a bike in Tucson, and not to mention, theres little to see or do in this endless suburb.

I can't wait to get back to Michigan and a real small town (yes they think 1,000,000 people is a small town here too)

Thanks for the good laugh!

[D-Towner]

I have a question for my Arizona Brethren. Do y'all get sick of people who moved to your state for one reason or another telling you (who are proud of your home territory) how much it sucks and how they want to move back to where they came from? I mean, it seems to happen a bit in the Texas forum. Just curious.

[saffordpastor]

Originally Posted by D-Towner

I have a question for my Arizona Brethren. Do y'all get sick of people who moved to your state for one reason or another telling you (who are proud of your home territory) how much it sucks and how they want to move back to where they came from? I mean, it seems to happen a bit in the Texas forum. Just curious.

Yes we do....and would just as soon they all move back to whatever icebound hellhole that spawned them.

[jlawrence01]

I have lived in Michigan and spent a lot of time in Arizona for work. The original post was hilarious. Nearly anyone who has lives in Detroit or its suburbs could cite each and everyone of the points as a reason to move to Arizona.

Except maybe the heat. On the other hand, I did not see the sun for 120 days straight in Detroit.

Honestly, all places have their good points and their bad points. Some people constantly dwell on the bad parts and miss all of the good points.

[Foreverking]

Originally Posted by D-Towner

I have a question for my Arizona Brethren. Do y'all get sick of people who moved to your state for one reason or another telling you (who are proud of your home territory) how much it sucks and how they want to move back to where they came from? I mean, it seems to happen a bit in the Texas forum. Just curious.

no, who cares. Texas needs its ***** kicked anyway. AZ Rocks, and those who don't think so....sure as heck arent gonna rave about Texas. They usually miss the cooler weather.

[D-Towner]

Originally Posted by Foreverking

no, who cares. Texas needs its ***** kicked anyway. AZ Rocks, and those who don't think so....sure as heck arent gonna rave about Texas. They usually miss the cooler weather.

I was holding out an olive branch of solidarity between our two provinces in hope that we can unite against the nay-sayers, but you have insulted my land. Never disrespect the glory that is Texas.

[Foreverking]

Originally Posted by D-Towner

I was holding out an olive branch of solidarity between our two provinces in hope that we can unite against the nay-sayers, but you have insulted my land. Never disrespect the glory that is Texas.

lol

[canudigit]

I think that in a year or so, I will start a thread here called:

"I never knew how depressed I was in Michigan until I got the he** out!"

Seriously, so maybe Tucson isn't the fun capital of the Western Hemisphere, but when you come back to Michigan, look forward to the following:

-piles of black snow waiting for the sun to melt them

-roads that are like driving on a washboard

-jobless rates that top the entire nation

-heavy handed union tactics that are destroying the blue collar work force that used to sustain Michigan's economy

-more people on public assistance than you could even imagine, with no jobs in sight...none

-increasing crime because of the horrific economy and because the cities are all desperate for money and can't hire more police

-gray skies, nothing but gray skies, from now on

-treacherous, icy roads--my county has stopped plowing on weekends entirely because they are out of funds, so if we get six inches of snow on a Friday night, plan on staying home or strapping on your snow shoes for the next two days

-muggy, humid summers that make your eyeballs sweat and man-eating mosquitoes that will keep you housebound if you get more than an inch of rain during the warm months since the cities can no longer afford to spray for them either

-a huge city that is dying from the inside out because of the collapse of the automotive industry and has found nothing else to revive it other than huge casinos in the downtown area


Okay, so not everything here in Michigan is terrible, but seriously, it is hardly the paradise that you paint it to be. No place is perfect, right? And seriously, if you hate AZ so much, you should probably post on the Michigan forum so that at least you don't offend people who live in AZ, but that's just me. I try to be polite because hey, if I don't like it, there's the door. That's why I'm leaving Michigan very soon. Arrividerci, Detroit, Gov. Granholm, and the worst roads in the country!

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by canudigit

I think that in a year or so, I will start a thread here called:

"I never knew how depressed I was in Michigan until I got the he** out!"

Seriously, so maybe Tucson isn't the fun capital of the Western Hemisphere, but when you come back to Michigan, look forward to the following:

-piles of black snow waiting for the sun to melt them

-roads that are like driving on a washboard

-jobless rates that top the entire nation

-heavy handed union tactics that are destroying the blue collar work force that used to sustain Michigan's economy

-more people on public assistance than you could even imagine, with no jobs in sight...none

-increasing crime because of the horrific economy and because the cities are all desperate for money and can't hire more police

-gray skies, nothing but gray skies, from now on

-treacherous, icy roads--my county has stopped plowing on weekends entirely because they are out of funds, so if we get six inches of snow on a Friday night, plan on staying home or strapping on your snow shoes for the next two days

-muggy, humid summers that make your eyeballs sweat and man-eating mosquitoes that will keep you housebound if you get more than an inch of rain during the warm months since the cities can no longer afford to spray for them either

-a huge city that is dying from the inside out because of the collapse of the automotive industry and has found nothing else to revive it other than huge casinos in the downtown area


Okay, so not everything here in Michigan is terrible, but seriously, it is hardly the paradise that you paint it to be. No place is perfect, right? And seriously, if you hate AZ so much, you should probably post on the Michigan forum so that at least you don't offend people who live in AZ, but that's just me. I try to be polite because hey, if I don't like it, there's the door. That's why I'm leaving Michigan very soon. Arrividerci, Detroit, Gov. Granholm, and the worst roads in the country!

Maybe you and odinloki1 can do a house swap.

Tucson has many problems but it sounds like paradise compared to Detroit.