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Old 05-02-2024, 08:08 AM
 
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Now, seriously, Brazil has no bright future ahead unless it starts to invest seriously in public education. Our public education system is a shame.

The current minister of Education has some good plans, since he was governor of the state where I live, the state of Ceará, a relativelly poor state that is the undisputable leader in public education in Brazil in the past 15 years. If he is able to implement the public education model that was implemented in the state of Ceará in the past 15 years in a nationwide scale, maybe, just maybe, Brazil may have a bright future in the 2040's.

There is no miracle. Education is a long term investment.
With what you said about Ceará, I was curious to know the performance of each Brazilian state in the PISA assessments.
Indeed, if all the states in the north and northeast and Rio de Janeiro had Ceara's performance, we would have a much higher national average in PISA.

But I think it also needs to be seen what good is being done in Minas and Espirito Santo, especially in Minas, which is very similar to Brazil with a large population, the northern part of Minas being much poorer (similar to Bahia) than the southern part (similar to Sao Paulo), but still manages to do better than Sao Paulo and the two souther states, but in any case, no state has scores close to the OECD average.

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_...r_nota_do_PISA

https://g1.globo.com/educacao/notici...-leitura.ghtml
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Old 05-02-2024, 12:33 PM
 
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Brazil only got the military toys from oil production. Just like many middle eastern countries, they are weak once oil dependence goes down and there will be a new world order when oil either becomes scarce or technology moves beyond oil consumption.
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Old 05-02-2024, 12:57 PM
 
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Brazil only got the military toys from oil production. Just like many middle eastern countries, they are weak once oil dependence goes down and there will be a new world order when oil either becomes scarce or technology moves beyond oil consumption.
Where did you get that from? Brazil is not even self-sufficient in oil
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Old 05-02-2024, 04:24 PM
 
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Brazil is a superpower in hydroelectric power production, which supplies over 70 percent of its domestic electric grid needs. None of the other top 20 GDP countries (except Canada) can come close to that mark, which has saved Brazil from being over-dependent on energy imports for domestic power production. Although China produces over 3x the amount of hydroelectric power as Brazil, it accounts for less than 20 percent of China's massive electric grid needs.

In the long term, the hydroelectric power plant investments made by Brazil will turn out to be one of its greatest strengths to sustain the country's economy and general well being.
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Old 05-03-2024, 05:24 AM
 
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Brazil is a superpower in hydroelectric power production, which supplies over 70 percent of its domestic electric grid needs. None of the other top 20 GDP countries (except Canada) can come close to that mark, which has saved Brazil from being over-dependent on energy imports for domestic power production. Although China produces over 3x the amount of hydroelectric power as Brazil, it accounts for less than 20 percent of China's massive electric grid needs.

In the long term, the hydroelectric power plant investments made by Brazil will turn out to be one of its greatest strengths to sustain the country's economy and general well being.
Brazil is also a major producer and consumer of sugarcane ethanol. Brazil has never been self-sufficient in oil and with the oil world crisis of the 70s Brazil began to develop biofuels. All cars in Brazil are bi-fuel (ethanol - gasoline) and ethanol consumption has been greater than gasoline for decades.
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Old 05-03-2024, 07:08 AM
 
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Brazil was invaded and had lands in the south and the state of Mato Grosso annexed by Paraguay and had the governor of the state of Mato Grosso kidnapped first, by Solano Lopez's troops only then reacted. Okay, Brazil didn't need to have decimated the male population of Paraguay, but it was Solano Lopez who made them fight to the last man until the Brazilian army captured and killed him hidden in the middle of the pond.
There are cases where other countries have been invaded by a neighbor and yet, they never invaded them. Whatever fighting took place ended at the border. This was despite defeat was often a decimation of the invading forces and often those forces were most of the military might of the invaders. That means that invading the invader and taking over their territory and of their government would had been a given and yet, everything ended at the border.

That’s not the case with Brazil which did initiate an invasion of its neighbor, who in all cases are smaller than Brazil for obvious reasons. When all things are taken into account, Brazil isn’t as innocent and the claim it has never invaded any of its neighbors is simply that, a claim without substance.

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As for Uruguay, it was taken by the Portuguese crown from the Spanish crown, although the king of Portugal was reigning since Rio de Janeiro was a Portuguese administration, not an independent Brazilian one.
Brazil has been independent since 1822 and the invasion of Uruguay took place in the 1860’s.
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Old 05-03-2024, 08:18 AM
 
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There are cases where other countries have been invaded by a neighbor and yet, they never invaded them. Whatever fighting took place ended at the border. This was despite defeat was often a decimation of the invading forces and often those forces were most of the military might of the invaders. That means that invading the invader and taking over their territory and of their government would had been a given and yet, everything ended at the border.

That’s not the case with Brazil which did initiate an invasion of its neighbor, who in all cases are smaller than Brazil for obvious reasons. When all things are taken into account, Brazil isn’t as innocent and the claim it has never invaded any of its neighbors is simply that, a claim without substance.


Brazil has been independent since 1822 and the invasion of Uruguay took place in the 1860’s.
You are confusing, King Dom João ordered the annexation of Uruguay in 1820, in 1822 Brazil became independent, in 1825 the Cisplatina province (Uruguay) became independent of Brazil.

In 1864, Brazil intervened in the Uruguayan civil war at the request of the internationally recognized local Uruguayan government. The opposition that tried to overthrow the government was supported by the Paraguayan dictator Solano Lopez.

Today wars are cruel, in 1860 there were no rules of any kind and yes Brazil decimated Paraguay to eliminate its dictator who was destabilizing South America.
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Old 05-03-2024, 08:22 AM
 
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Super powers usually have political, military and cultural influence over other countries. How much influence does Brail have over it neighbors??
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Old 05-03-2024, 07:07 PM
 
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You are confusing, King Dom João ordered the annexation of Uruguay in 1820, in 1822 Brazil became independent, in 1825 the Cisplatina province (Uruguay) became independent of Brazil.
I’m not confused since the entire time it has been about the invasions of Brazil to its neighboring countries. Why go back to colonial times before Brazil existed as an independent country?

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In 1864, Brazil intervened in the Uruguayan civil war at the request of the internationally recognized local Uruguayan government. The opposition that tried to overthrow the government was supported by the Paraguayan dictator Solano Lopez.
Right, I guess that’s why Brazil sent the uruguayan government at Montevideo an ultimatum, the not compliance of that initiated the Brazilian invasion. Lets not even ignore the Brazil effectively removed an Uruguayan government and put in its place a pro-Brazilian government. Hmm, where have I seen that happen before?

You guys probably get a history lesson where Brazil is seen in a better light.

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Today wars are cruel, in 1860 there were no rules of any kind and yes Brazil decimated Paraguay to eliminate its dictator who was destabilizing South America.
Here it’s again, an attempt to soften Brazil’s wrong doing of killing most of Paraguay’s population in their own land. Wiping out the population of a country in its one land isn’t somethkng that can be spinned into anything positive or “less bad.” Very few countries in the Western Hemisphere know what it is like to have outsiders invade and kill/make flee away out of fear people from their own land, on top of that civilians.

Anyways, the point here is that Brazil did took it upon itself to invade several of its neighbors and its military has gone beyond its cope by helping wipe out most of the population of a country in its own land. There are militaries that had the chance to invade and wipe out an entire civilian population and it choose not too. The thought of violating another people’s right to rule themselves is not even entertained. It could had also toppled their government and put in its place a puppet president and yet, it didn’t do that either. That’s an example of a country having an military who’s purpose is defend the country vs attacking someone else’s countries since whatever it does stops at the borders. Brazil has a history where clearly that has not been case. Perhaps now invading other countries is not something Brazil would even think of doing, but it did in the past.
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Old 05-03-2024, 08:48 PM
 
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Damn....didn't know about Brazils excursions into neighboring countries. Have to look up more about this.
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