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Old 08-24-2022, 12:46 PM
 
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And Japanese reactors? What have they done to that region?
While no part of the Pacific is completely isolated from any other, maps of the subpolar gyres and prevailing currents show that the Bering Sea doesn't get much if any direct flow off Japan. The far northern gyres flow the opposite direction. Radiation from Fukushima started being detected on the US Pacific coast in 2015. I'm sure some will eventually get to the Bering but at what level? Enough to contribute to this population crash is very unlikely.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...t=0&ajaxserp=0

https://www.newsweek.com/radiation-j...-canada-320009
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:02 PM
 
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While no part of the Pacific is completely isolated from any other, maps of the subpolar gyres and prevailing currents show that the Bering Sea doesn't get much if any direct flow off Japan. The far northern gyres flow the opposite direction. Radiation from Fukushima started being detected on the US Pacific coast in 2015. I'm sure some will eventually get to the Bering but at what level? Enough to contribute to this population crash is very unlikely.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...t=0&ajaxserp=0

https://www.newsweek.com/radiation-j...-canada-320009
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https://www.kcaw.org/2021/04/19/a-de...od-monitoring/

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And I recently read that there has been an influx of king crab into UK waters.
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King crab were introduced into Russian waters in the 1960 and have been creeping westward ever since.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Don't forget the Fukushima nuclear accident and the effects it is having on sea and human life.


I have personally seen the damage the accident has done (in conjunction with other human factors) to the world's second largest reef in the Caribbean.

Wait, you're trying to say that radiation from Fukushima damaged a reef in the Caribbeans? Coral reef bleaching is primarily caused by water temperature. I'm sure oil spills such as Deepwater Horizon ain't helping either.


The US blew up around a 100 atomic bombs in the Pacific in the 50's -70ish years ago. Problems with reefs are more recent.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Wait, you're trying to say that radiation from Fukushima damaged a reef in the Caribbeans? Coral reef bleaching is primarily caused by water temperature. I'm sure oil spills such as Deepwater Horizon ain't helping either.

The US blew up around a 100 atomic bombs in the Pacific in the 50's -70ish years ago. Problems with reefs are more recent.
Hmmmm, I am reminded of the dialogue in the 1973 (but released years later) flick "Prisoner in the Middle" where the USAF weapons expert is parachuted into the deserts of Israel to disarm a superbomb.....and is captured, expert and bomb, by the Palestine Liberation Army.


"If it does go off, you can say good bye to Jerusalem, Cairo, Ankara, to the entire Middle East!"--expert
"It's,....it's a joke! Not even the bombs you dropped on Japan were that powerful."--PLA leader
"Look, Major, that was 28 years ago. We've made some improvements since then.".


Same thing here on two levels. First of all, nuclear weapons and power generating technology is not the same. Secondly, in either, there have been probably changes made over the decades to how it is done.
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Old 08-25-2022, 12:12 PM
 
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Alaska seafood has been tested consistently for radiation from Fukushima for years now (including independent testing) and elevated levels haven't been found. Of course, the crazies are just going to say that's a conspiracy/cover up, like everything else they don't want to believe. After all, Facebook and the yellow press has so much more credibility than actual science...

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ting-cancer-b/



The 2015 sockeye salmon run was the most likely to have been adversely affected by Fukushima; it wasn't.
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Old 08-26-2022, 07:43 PM
 
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Don't forget the Fukushima nuclear accident and the effects it is having on sea and human life.

I see a university study stated that limits on seafood sales are affecting researcher's abilities to study the full extent of the damage. https://www.researchgate.net/publica...hima_Fisheries

Japan has decided that it's safe to release more radioactive water into the ocean.
https://www.thecordovatimes.com/2022...k-ed-by-japan/

What else can they do with it?

I have personally seen the damage the accident has done (in conjunction with other human factors) to the world's second largest reef in the Caribbean.

And I recently read that there has been an influx of king crab into UK waters.

Global warming? Overharvesting?

All these factors are intertwined and complex.
Korean scientists say they have found a way to remove radioactive iodine from the ocean water.
Would it not be more efficient to remove the radioactive elements from the contaminated Fukushima 1.3 million tons of radioactive water?


Korea finds way to selectively remove radioactive iodine from sea
Aug 22, 2022
Since 2011, the cripped nuclear power plant in Fukushima Japan... has generated some 1.3 million tons of radioactive water... that's had to be stored.
The plan now, though, is for Japan to start releasing it into the ocean.
In the meantime, Korean scientists are developing ways to remove multiple radioactive elements from ocean water.
They've succeeded already with radioactive iodine.
In the third installment in her Smart Korea series, Shin Ye-eun looks at this important research.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl9t0R6k97M
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Korean scientists say they have found a way to remove radioactive iodine from the ocean water.
Would it not be more efficient to remove the radioactive elements from the contaminated Fukushima 1.3 million tons of radioactive water?


Korea finds way to selectively remove radioactive iodine from sea
Aug 22, 2022
Since 2011, the cripped nuclear power plant in Fukushima Japan... has generated some 1.3 million tons of radioactive water... that's had to be stored.
The plan now, though, is for Japan to start releasing it into the ocean.
In the meantime, Korean scientists are developing ways to remove multiple radioactive elements from ocean water.
They've succeeded already with radioactive iodine.
In the third installment in her Smart Korea series, Shin Ye-eun looks at this important research.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl9t0R6k97M

They plan to treat the Fukushima water before releasing it. However, tritium won't be removed by the process and will be released along with the water not radioactive iodine. You know those glow-in-the-dark EXIT signs? Tritium.
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:42 PM
 
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They plan to treat the Fukushima water before releasing it. However, tritium won't be removed by the process and will be released along with the water not radioactive iodine. You know those glow-in-the-dark EXIT signs? Tritium.
Thanks.
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Old 10-11-2022, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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The red king crab season as well as snow crab season have been canceled for 2022.


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...asons-canceled


https://www.intrafish.com/fisheries/...ow/2-1-1332388
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Old 10-11-2022, 08:58 PM
 
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Oooooof...Terrible.
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