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Old 04-30-2024, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Dubbed by locals as The Jailscraper, it's projected to stretch 300 feet in the air, about the height of NYC's Statue of Liberty or London's Big Ben. It will replace The Tombs.

When ready, the building will have space for 1,040 beds. Still, it will be highly revamped and offer facilities like recreation centers and health clinics. For visitations, the facility will also have playroom facilities for children.
However, the downtown neighborhood of Chinatown is now worried that the structure will be a symbol of its mass incarceration.

The Borough-Based Jails program is expected to cost $15 billion, according to the mayor’s budget director, Jacques Jiha, nearly double the original price tag.

No renderings, yet.
https://interestingengineering.com/c...llest-jail-nyc

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/...controversial#
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:32 AM
 
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Dubbed by locals as The Jailscraper, it's projected to stretch 300 feet in the air, about the height of NYC's Statue of Liberty or London's Big Ben. It will replace The Tombs.

When ready, the building will have space for 1,040 beds. Still, it will be highly revamped and offer facilities like recreation centers and health clinics. For visitations, the facility will also have playroom facilities for children.
However, the downtown neighborhood of Chinatown is now worried that the structure will be a symbol of its mass incarceration.

The Borough-Based Jails program is expected to cost $15 billion, according to the mayor’s budget director, Jacques Jiha, nearly double the original price tag.

No renderings, yet.
https://interestingengineering.com/c...llest-jail-nyc

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/...controversial#
I wonder how many Skyscraper jails there are in the U.S.. Chicago has the Metropolitan Correctional Center for the Federal Government.
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Old 05-03-2024, 12:45 PM
 
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I recall the early days of my career working in downtown Boston, the skyscrapers were such a pain of a place to work because it took so long to get from the street to my workstation and vice versa. However that works favorably for jails and prisons. Replace the windows on the first 3 levels of the building with solid walls and you suddenly have a very secure facility. Any prisoner who tries to jump out a window above the 3rd floor will most certainly suffer a serious injury or death and guarding the entrance and egress points on the first floor would be relatively easy compared to the overall size of the facility. Combine one or more skyscrapers with an island; suddenly there is a tremendously secure facility.
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Old Today, 11:01 AM
 
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A new building sounds far easier than a conversion. Jails are massively specialized in a bunch of ways, like separate staff/prisoner circulation, damage-proofing, special ceiling heights and column-free areas (based on whatever design theory they're following), extra plumbing needs (more like residential than office), and so on. Has there ever been a conversion from office to jail?

And no you can't leave the old windows. Jails also need to thwart suicides.

It sounds like a good idea for NYC to use land efficiently.
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Old Today, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Default world's tallest jail to be built in NYC

Take that, China! USA #1!
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Old Today, 07:40 PM
 
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Take that, China! USA #1!

America, F Yeah! LOL
Makes me think of something that might be in the movie Idiocracy, stacking prisoners in abandoned skyscrapers until they get called for their turn in Rehabilitation Night mortal challenges. Only one prisoner makes it out alive each night, so overcrowding in the prison is not an issue and ticket sales for the event help to fund the prison.
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