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Old 03-18-2024, 10:20 PM
 
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Time for an election and Labour back in power
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Old 03-19-2024, 08:56 AM
 
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People vote in the Conservatives for years and wonder why the poor get poorer and the rich get richer, when it happens every time. The funny part is that Labour only win when they adopt Tory policies.
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Old 03-19-2024, 10:50 AM
 
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People vote in the Conservatives for years and wonder why the poor get poorer and the rich get richer, when it happens every time. The funny part is that Labour only win when they adopt Tory policies.

Pro Capitalist in business and Socialist in programs that benefit and improve the well being of the people makes a party worth voting for.
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Old 03-19-2024, 05:08 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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It's amazing how poor people always seem to have a few too many kids. Are they so dumb that they couldn`t find their way to a family planning clinic or that father doesn't know where the nearest drug store is and for a modest sum of money purchase a pack or two of condoms.

Meanwhile the rest of us who work hard 5 days a week, strive hard and sacrifice to get ahead, plan how many kids we want, think ahead that one day they'll need money for college or university and end up paying a shed load of taxes to support these losers.

During Obama's Presidency the Affordable Care Act came into being which resulted in a few million Americans too young for Medicare suddenly having medical coverage. Pretty soon the complaints started coming in . "Why should I have to pay for a medical coverage I don't need. I'm young, healthy. Don't need it now" was the common complaint.

Those same people knew that if they were suddenly taken ill they could walk into one of the County Hospitals and get treatment done for free if they were unable to pay for it and those County hospitals supported from taxpayer money. In fact not even privately funded hospitals can turn a sick person away. At the hospital where my daughter works there are always a couple of homeless admitted for treatment every week and the hospitals have to eat the cost. Some of them are veterans, druggies who got hooked on the stuff in Afghanistan and dont want to go to the VA for treatment because they would have to undergo rehab treatment which means no longer able to get the stuff.

On the subject of schools in Britain we received hot meals every day plus milk and most of us weren't poor either. Teachers did not put up, with any nonsense . We were well schooled in spelling, math, history, geography, and science.

I was surprised on arrival in America to see how many adults misspelled every day common English words
I have to say this made me laugh out loud, From what you say about your schooling I'm guessing you're English? If you are then this is funny, if you're not English then you get away with it!

We'll let you off if you've been 'over there' a long time!
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Old 03-19-2024, 06:14 PM
 
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Much of the western world is headed this way. Things will only get worse. Get used to it. No one is serious about the high cost of living, speciall housing.
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Old 03-20-2024, 03:25 PM
 
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For those of us who don’t know, can someone explain what the differences are in GB between the conservative and liberal parties? I am told they are the opposite of the way we understand them in the US.
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Old 03-20-2024, 04:08 PM
 
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You're probably thinking about Australia, whose Liberal party is very conservative. They are liberal in the economic sense. The US has pretty much corrupted the word "liberal" to mean left wing.

In the UK, the Conservative Party is right wing, and Labour is left wing. They are the two main parties. The Liberal Democrats are also left wing, but they are a much smaller party, but consistently present and win elections enough to make a difference. The Conservatives are probably close-ish to the US Democrats who lean more to the right (but not to those who are more left). The other two parties are much more to the left, both socially and economically.
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Old 03-21-2024, 06:01 AM
 
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You're probably thinking about Australia, whose Liberal party is very conservative. They are liberal in the economic sense. The US has pretty much corrupted the word "liberal" to mean left wing.

In the UK, the Conservative Party is right wing, and Labour is left wing. They are the two main parties. The Liberal Democrats are also left wing, but they are a much smaller party, but consistently present and win elections enough to make a difference. The Conservatives are probably close-ish to the US Democrats who lean more to the right (but not to those who are more left). The other two parties are much more to the left, both socially and economically.
Still confused, because US Democrats are not at all conservative….they are left liberal and are tax and spend. US Conservatives are for small government and low taxes….right wing. There are degrees of each of these, but no other political parties, except for Libertarians, a party which is too small to have any influence.
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Old 03-21-2024, 08:21 AM
 
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A lot of Americans don't realise how most of their politics is shifted to the right compared to the rest of the world. Apart from the odd fascist/nationalist party, most of the major conservative parties in Europe aren't to the right of the Democrats. Very few would advocate for getting rid of universal healthcare and similar socialist programs.

Democrats are centre-right. Actual left-wingers wedge themselves into the party but they aren't the majority. Republicans are hard-right, and are certainly not for small government on social issues. Low taxes but high spending has been their thing for the last few decades.

But that's going off topic here, I'm sure there is a politics forum you can discuss it in further.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:10 PM
 
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Still confused, because US Democrats are not at all conservative….they are left liberal and are tax and spend. US Conservatives are for small government and low taxes….right wing. There are degrees of each of these, but no other political parties, except for Libertarians, a party which is too small to have any influence.
The Republican party is currently divided between the moderates and the hard right AKA MAGA. GOP are for small government basically, not for widespread "Socialist" programs. Do not approve of tax increases especially amongst the wealthy. very pro business, conservative values and also have a strong Protestant Christian religious influence.

The Democrats are traditionally centrist, more right wing that the British labour party, pro Labor, pro union, work to pass bills to improve social benefits but at present also have an element of liberal, far leftish leaning element, called the Progressives.

The Libertarian Party such as it is draws almost no votes at all

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