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Old 03-01-2024, 08:05 AM
 
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I thought both those terms were used in the US

Never heard of either one, and I am an American and lived in the UK for 3 years.
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Old 03-01-2024, 03:43 PM
 
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I'm currently watching a BBC show called Time, about men's prison in the UK. Irish accents are so heavy I actually had to turn subtitles on! (I'm American)

Had to look up a couple slang terms, had never heard them before:

Nonce is a child molester
Grass is a snitch/narc
Grass is a universal term for a snitch, and the term Supergrass is sometimes used for a grass who gives up numerous names in organised crime criminal cases and other such serious criminal cases.

As for Nonce, it comes from the boards outside cells in British Prisons where the acronym N.O.N.C.E would be displayed outside of sex offenders and other such criminals prison cells. The boards outside of the prison cells would generally have name, prison number, length of sentence, special requirements and other such information written on them along with various other information.

N.O.N.C.E stands for 'Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise' meaning that this prisoner was not to go out for exercise on to the yard with other prisoners from the general population, and this was obviously for their own safety.

The acronym N.O.N.C.E was quickly adopted by prisoners and then society as a whole, and the term Nonce is now popular general slang for sex offenders and other such deviants.

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Old 03-01-2024, 04:16 PM
 
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^^ Interesting, thanks for that explanation.

I've never heard the terms nonce or grass before in my life, or if I did it was ignored or not understood.
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Old 03-01-2024, 05:01 PM
 
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I'm currently watching a BBC show called Time, about men's prison in the UK. Irish accents are so heavy I actually had to turn subtitles on! (I'm American)

Had to look up a couple slang terms, had never heard them before:

Nonce is a child molester
Grass is a snitch/narc
Both very common. Do they use the term screws in USA for prison warders? Old Bill or simply The Bill another term used for police in UK. Guv or Guvnor is the boss man .
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Old 03-01-2024, 05:26 PM
 
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Both very common. Do they use the term screws in USA for prison warders? Old Bill or simply The Bill another term used for police in UK. Guv or Guvnor is the boss man .
One British TV show from the seventies that used a lot of English/London slang weas The Sweeny. Probably hard for a number of Americans to understand in parts.
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:06 PM
 
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One British TV show from the seventies that used a lot of English/London slang weas The Sweeny. Probably hard for a number of Americans to understand in parts.
I bet any British member of C-D can type a sentence with slang that will confound an American reader.
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Old 03-01-2024, 07:57 PM
 
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I bet any British member of C-D can type a sentence with slang that will confound an American reader.
Quite so. Interesting how Aussies and Kiwi's get most British slang while Americans are baffled. It may be of course a result of growing up with British TV, going to school with British kids, plus a lot more travel to UK by Australians.
In return I think UK people as a rule generally understand Aussie slang in return.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:13 PM
 
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Here's some more I'm hearing from this show Time, a BBC production with lots of heavy Irish accents. Have never heard these in American English and love these varied dialects of the same language.

skint: broke, having little money or few possessions
"in the nick": in prison/caught/busted (it's pronounced with a guttural sound, not a hard 'k')
scran: to eat, food
brown: either heroin or whiskey?
to keep schtum: to not say anything about something
sparko: dead asleep

Another difference isn't language, but involving a traffic stop. In one scene a character sees flashing police lights behind him while driving, pulls over, and the police car moves up and pulls over in front of him. In the US police always pull up and park behind you.
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Old 03-02-2024, 12:13 AM
 
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kanga: prison slang for Prison Officer, derived from 'kangaroo', which is rhyming slang for 'screw'. (Screw was mentioned upthread, meaning a guard or prison warden)

clobber: personal belongings/clothes (in the US this is a verb meaning to beat up or defeat)
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Old 03-02-2024, 12:28 AM
 
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Both very common. Do they use the term screws in USA for prison warders? Old Bill or simply The Bill another term used for police in UK. Guv or Guvnor is the boss man .
Yes. Came from Britain originally. Had something to do with treadmills which were used as a form of punishment
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