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Old 05-07-2024, 12:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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If aliens do exist, they wouldn't need to travel 93 billion light years.
OK. So where would they come from. Our solar system?
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Old 05-07-2024, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Given that the best estimates that the known universe is 93 billion light years across does anyone really believe aliens have the technology to visit earth?
That supposes that our current human knowledge of how to traverse such distances is absolute.

Seems arrogant to think we possess all required knowledge.
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Old 05-08-2024, 07:32 AM
 
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I also saw Charlie Red Star I was there a well documented sighting I called it Red Charlie.It lit the entire sky Red in a flash I saw it and you can call me crazy if you want but there were lots of other people there too so it wasn't just me.It would come to this private airport and people would go there hoping to see it. It went on a few nights and people went crazy trying to see it. So I'm a nutcase too because I saw it.
That's cool that you saw that UFO. Ever since I read the book on the event I've been fascinated by Charlie Red Star. A mischievous UFO or UFOs that was seen by tons of people over a period of months. Next to the Shag Harbor and Falcon Lake incidents I find it Canada's most fascinating UFO encounter.
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Old 05-08-2024, 08:11 AM
 
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OK. So where would they come from. Our solar system?
They can come from anywhere in the known because the distance between any spot in the known universe and earth, is less than 93 billion light years.
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Old 05-08-2024, 10:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I keep forgetting that this is the mysteries and paranormal forum. So postulating on topics based on science is beyond the scope of discussion. So whatever rocks your boat go for it.
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Old 05-08-2024, 11:56 AM
 
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I keep forgetting that this is the mysteries and paranormal forum. So postulating on topics based on science is beyond the scope of discussion. So whatever rocks your boat go for it.
I got attacked to, don't let it bother you. I want to believe, but Mysteries and Paranormal discussion should include skeptics and scientific explanations as well otherwise you don't have a open and free discussion.

Abduction cases in particular, even in the UFO community that take these things seriously, are seen as somewhat akin to folklore and outside of the "mainstream".
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Old 05-10-2024, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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I keep forgetting that this is the mysteries and paranormal forum. So postulating on topics based on science is beyond the scope of discussion. So whatever rocks your boat go for it.
Ah, but you have already limited your scope within our current understood scientific parameters, without you ever considering that our understanding could be lacking in something fundamental that may be able to change the way we think about distance/time. Looking at our science at any given moment as an absolute is a mistake.

There have been electrons observed which appear to go from one atomic level to another instantly without passing through the middle, like being able to jump from the 1st floor to the 5th without ever passing through the 2nd-4th floors via an elevator or stairs. In the world of quantum mechanics, Einstein or Newton's laws don't really fit so while science is always welcome, it's never a finished subject and treating it as such is too dogmatic.
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Old 05-10-2024, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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KONA BLUE has been declassified and released. Find info here: https://www.aaro.mil/UAP-Records-Research/fbclid/ ...... Our ( some in it ) gov was of the mind there might be extra terrestrials and interdenominational stuff and even stuff like remote viewing consciousness.....

The proposed project never got off the ground. But that huge pdf in the second link sheds some light on what was known or thought could maybe possibly be. The darn pdf is an image file so it is text unsearchable and hard to deal with. A tad tedious and repetitive. Get some coffee and plan for a long read.

some where in my research I found the ( later) I'll be back.

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Old 05-10-2024, 06:35 PM
 
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The most famous abduction researcher was the late Bud Hopkins. He wrote a few books on the topic and did use hypnosis to regress supposed abductees. His books are very well written unlike most UFO books. Believe what you want, you pays your money and takes your choice.
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Old 05-11-2024, 09:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The question of alien life forms is highly complex and not necessarily constrained by the question of distance. There may have been civilizations that evolved from primitive origins to evolved ones and simply burned out and became extinct.

And we seem to describe aliens as entities that resemble humans. And they travel in human like evolved spacecraft. These supposed beings may not in any way have a human life form. Shapeless, unseen with an existence that defy our perceptions of life.
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