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Trust me, you know very little about me there strange one. But I'll share this with you.
Years ago my son represented his nation of birth's team in international competition in 2 very different sports. They had a U19 category teams. All the team mates were native born. Now many of the coaches were foreigners because they possessed superior knowledge when compared to the home grown coaches. But only the players required that nation's passport and authorization to participate. Talent wise they could have built a far better team by going to other nations to find better players. But that defeats the purpose of improving your local talent.
I respect all the MLB & NBA international players that choose to represent their home nations in international play. Many of them could find loopholes to play for Team USA. I'm sure there is a level of comfort playing with people that share your language and culture.
In this season of thanksgiving and I am indeed thankful I know very little about you. And of course you do not get to choose the location of your birth. Often your birth mother does, but in many places the birth mother gets no say in that either and just does what she is told. And of course there are people born early or under less than ideal circumstances, so often location of birth is no person's choice.
But none of this in any way lessens that individual person's right to play for any nation that he or she may qualify for under the law. I'm glad I do not know anything about you and your hatred. My opinion is that your views and words are disgusting and hateful. Best to you.
I mean it's pretty standard to speak the language of the country you are playing for.
Makes it a lot easier especially at practice.
Imagine having a player in the USA national football team that doesn't speak any English, you don't think that's strange?
I'm all for freedom to speak any language you like but not within a national team.
Say I'm an American without saying I'm an American.
Play a little in South America and Europe, it really does not limit you in any way whatsoever.
-Born in country + 1 year of living
or
-Speaks language and understands culture, Not born in country but lived in country for at least 10 years (6 years if one parent was born there, only 3 years if both parents were born there)
tell that to the coach of the Saudi team, French speaking and communicates to this Arabic speaking players through an interpreter, there is always a way to make things work
I do not know about USA but in Europe many countries give citizenships to players that have nothing in common with them except for playing in the particular country's league for one or two years. They do it even though they don't even know the language of the country. They do it even though average person would not have a chance for citizenship after such short time and without knowing the language of that country. Examples Roger Guerreiro and Emanuel Olisadebe for Poland. And brazilians who played for Russia, Croatia.
If someone is born abroad but has parents from different country, then I think it is okay for them to play for parent's country but giving citizenships to people that only play in domestic league for year or two is ridiculous. Countries are not clubs.
Why is the US world cup team full of foreign players?
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I can understand the pride you would feel representing your home nation on the international stage. But a lot of these players are foreign born. You would think a team representing the US of A would actually have players that were born in America.
I think there are five who weren’t born in the US. Musah was eligible to represent Ghana, Italy, England and the US. Dest was born in the Netherlands to an American dad. They’re eligible to play for the USMNT because they are direct descendants of Americans.
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I understand the concept of getting the best players possible. I'm surprised their home nations don't cry foul at team America poaching better players to represent the red, white and blue.
No country can ‘poach’ a player; it’s all relative to eligibility and dual or multiple citizenship (and the player’s choice).
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It sort of flies in the face of fair competition.
How so? Results (re: competitive international matches) can be overturned by FIFA if a player is found to be ineligible.
Footballers choose the national teams they will represent much more for professional reasons than patriotism. Play for a national team, specially in a world cup, higher a lot the players football market value, if playing for the top 6 national teams much more.
Until the end of the 80's it was not well accepted by the brazilian people, to have players who were playing in foreigners clubs abroad in the Brazilian national team. I'm talking about players born, raised and formed by Brazilian clubs sold as adult professional players to foreign teams.
I do not know about USA but in Europe many countries give citizenships to players that have nothing in common with them except for playing in the particular country's league for one or two years. They do it even though they don't even know the language of the country. They do it even though average person would not have a chance for citizenship after such short time and without knowing the language of that country. Examples Roger Guerreiro and Emanuel Olisadebe for Poland. And brazilians who played for Russia, Croatia. If someone is born abroad but has parents from different country, then I think it is okay for them to play for parent's country but giving citizenships to people that only play in domestic league for year or two is ridiculous. Countries are not clubs.
Agreed. I think countries like USA or the Africans that don't have well developed football at home is pretty normal search for better players holding their citzenship formed in clubs abroad. The guys having their passport by birth right, independent of the football world is OK.
There was a time under Klinsmann when he was the USMNT manager that they were actively looking for sons of US servicemen in Germany after the success of bringing in Jermaine Jones, who had been an active part of the Germany under 21s team.
Americans have bases all over the world, it's only natural you'd find lots of half-American children being born and being eligible to play for the US.
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