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Old 11-22-2023, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Fiance' & I got a pair 1 year into the start of COVID to get outdoors more. Neither of us had ridden even regular bikes in numerous years...for me since I was a teenager, but once you have e-bikes, you'll probably never want regular bikes anymore! We don't ride ours in the streets to actually get somewhere, but in parks & other trails for fun only. (It's way too, too dangerous to bike in the streets thes days.)

Do your research. There's hundreds of e-bike brands out there. We got a pair of foldable ones from the brand Motiv, but sold them & want to get better bikes one day.

This isn't a foldable, but so far, I'm liking this one called the Kommoda by Cyrusher:
https://www.cyrusher.com/products/kommoda-ebike

I like this foldable called Model F by the brand Electric Bike Co.:
https://electricbikecompany.com/model-f

This foldable has the rare 3" tires, which I wish a LOT more e-bikes made...most have the usual 4" fat tires. This is the Eahora Azaria:
https://www.eahoraebike.com/products...1982738366706#


$1000 is on the cheaper end, but doable.


Also, did you go to the Hobbies & then Cycling section of this discussion board? There more about e-bikes there:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/cycling/
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Old 11-23-2023, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I put mine in my living room. Since pretty much every object with a battery or plugged in to any outlet has the same chance of spontaneous combustion.

I like to keep all my fire hazards in one area instead of spreading them out.
So how many computer or cell phone fires have you heard about lately?

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/11627...-battery-fires

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Most electric battery-related incidents stem from inappropriate usage/handling, factors like overcharging or short circuits while using incompatible charging docks that lead to overheating and, in some cases, explosions.
Generally, this happens very seldom, though.

EV batteries, in fact, are far less likely to catch fire than an internal combustion engine vehicle.
Globally, EV FireSafe found about 0.0012% of electric passenger vehicles caught fire from 2010 to 2023 compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine fires.
In other words - there's a 1 in 38,000 chance of EV battery fire vs 1 in 1,300 chance of gas- and diesel-powered passenger vehicles fire.

I charge my car in my garage every night for over a decade now, not concerned about fires or explosion.
Well good. In my entire life I've never heard of an ICE vehicle, lawn mower, edger, leaf blower, etc. spontaneously lighting up.

From the above link:

Why are batteries in e-bikes and scooters vulnerable to catching fire?
Lithium-ion batteries power many rechargeable devices that are part of our modern lives: cell phones, laptops, vapes, cordless power tools and electric vehicles of all kinds, from cars to scooters to e-bikes to hoverboards.

They're small, lightweight and powerful — but they're also prone to overheating and catching fire, said Michael Pecht, a professor of engineering at the University of Maryland. "Ever since lithium-ion batteries started to be prevalent in products, we've seen fires," he said.

Fires from exploding e-bike batteries multiply in NYC — sometimes fatally

Fires from exploding e-bike batteries multiply in NYC — sometimes fatally
At issue is the high density of the batteries, which is a double-edged sword, said Pecht, who also serves as director of the Center for Advanced Life Cycle Engineering, a university research center that consults with companies on reliability and safety issues, including batteries.
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Old 11-23-2023, 01:18 PM
 
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So how many computer or cell phone fires have you heard about lately?

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/11627...-battery-fires



Well good. In my entire life I've never heard of an ICE vehicle, lawn mower, edger, leaf blower, etc. spontaneously lighting up.

From the above link:

Why are batteries in e-bikes and scooters vulnerable to catching fire?
Lithium-ion batteries power many rechargeable devices that are part of our modern lives: cell phones, laptops, vapes, cordless power tools and electric vehicles of all kinds, from cars to scooters to e-bikes to hoverboards.

They're small, lightweight and powerful — but they're also prone to overheating and catching fire, said Michael Pecht, a professor of engineering at the University of Maryland. "Ever since lithium-ion batteries started to be prevalent in products, we've seen fires," he said.

Fires from exploding e-bike batteries multiply in NYC — sometimes fatally

Fires from exploding e-bike batteries multiply in NYC — sometimes fatally
At issue is the high density of the batteries, which is a double-edged sword, said Pecht, who also serves as director of the Center for Advanced Life Cycle Engineering, a university research center that consults with companies on reliability and safety issues, including batteries.
In my entire life of 54 years I have only ever seen one device spontaneously catch on fire. It was a laptop someone at the local nursing home was using that had the battery replaced with one of the super cheap ones. It pretty much melted through the table it got so hot. I don't know a single other person who it has actually happened to. Yes with the millions of devices out there I am sure if I looked on the internet for examples I could find some.
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Old 11-24-2023, 10:20 AM
 
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How so?
In my experience...

They're basically mopeds ridden too fast in areas where they are not appropriate (and mostly illegal) by people who couldn't even safely ride a normal bike.
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Old 11-24-2023, 10:31 AM
 
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In my experience...

They're basically mopeds ridden too fast in areas where they are not appropriate (and mostly illegal) by people who couldn't even safely ride a normal bike.
Are you against bikes and motorcycles as well?
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Old 11-24-2023, 03:13 PM
 
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Are you against bikes and motorcycles as well?
Not at all, why would I be?
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Old 11-28-2023, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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In my experience...

They're basically mopeds ridden too fast in areas where they are not appropriate (and mostly illegal) by people who couldn't even safely ride a normal bike.
Yep.

These "E bikes" need to be considered as low power motorcycles or low power motor scooters. They are generally not appropriate for the hike-and-bike trails on which they're so often ridden.

You want a bicycle, go get a bicycle, and learn how to use the gears. You're going to pay for them (pretty much any standard bicycle sold these days has a tremendously wide gear range, but most of the people I see riding them insist on heaving and straining away in high gear at 5 pedal strokes per minute and then they wonder why they poop out in 2 miles while those of us who learned how to use the gears pedal comfortably past them), you're going to carry them around, use the damn gears!

If you want a low power quiet electric small motorcycle or scooter, get one of those (whether it's called "E bike" or something else) and ride it where such small motor vehicles are allowed.
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Old 11-28-2023, 11:14 AM
 
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Not at all, why would I be?
Because in my experience, I have seen more accidents with motorcycles then ebikes.
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Old 11-28-2023, 11:23 AM
 
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Because in my experience, I have seen more accidents with motorcycles then ebikes.
Not a useful comparison. Motorcycles don't intermix with cyclists and pedestrians on sidewalks and bike/walk paths, pretending they're riding a bicycle.
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Old 11-28-2023, 12:43 PM
 
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In my experience...

They're basically mopeds ridden too fast in areas where they are not appropriate (and mostly illegal) by people who couldn't even safely ride a normal bike.
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Not a useful comparison. Motorcycles don't intermix with cyclists and pedestrians on sidewalks and bike/walk paths, pretending they're riding a bicycle.
Couldn't agree more and I have an eBike.
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