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Old 05-12-2024, 10:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by berdee View Post
It was discussed in this thread:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...fied-docs.html


"from an unsealed transcript of witness interview." :

"...GSA had approximately six pallets of items, boxes I believe, that were stored in Virginia."

https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/sta...-saga-n4928572
I don’t care what Julie Kelly says, the six pallets of boxes were not stored by the GSA, they were packed in Virginia in Trump’s transition office by the Trump team and SHIPPED DIRECTLY FROM THERE to MAL and Life Storage as evidenced by the bills of lading for the pallets in the emails.

And in the thread you referenced we went through this extensively.

The emails and paperwork clearly show that the GSA did not store any boxes, have any boxes, keep any boxes somewhere.

They remained at the transition office until picked up by the courier as the Trump team intended.

This is so asinine.
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Old 05-12-2024, 10:33 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I don’t care what Julie Kelly says, the six pallets of boxes were not stored by the GSA, they were packed in Virginia in Trump’s transition office by the Trump team and SHIPPED DIRECTLY FROM THERE to MAL and Life Storage as evidenced by the bills of lading for the pallets in the emails.
If you don't care what she's posting about then you don't care about the recently redacted emails are saying...since that is what she's been posting about. If you don't care what the recently redacted emails say then you don't care about what NARA, Jack Smith, etc., say. I guess your opinion overrides all of them, eh?


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And in the thread you referenced we went through this extensively.

The emails and paperwork clearly show that the GSA did not store any boxes, have any boxes, keep any boxes somewhere.

They remained at the transition office until picked up by the courier as the Trump team intended.

This is so asinine.
Show those recently unredacted emails that "clearly show that the GSA did not store any boxes, have any boxes, keep any boxes somewhere."
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:26 PM
 
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If you don't care what she's posting about then you don't care about the recently redacted emails are saying...since that is what she's been posting about. If you don't care what the recently redacted emails say then you don't care about what NARA, Jack Smith, etc., say. I guess your opinion overrides all of them, eh?




Show those recently unredacted emails that "clearly show that the GSA did not store any boxes, have any boxes, keep any boxes somewhere."
Sigh.

I posted the email chain between the GSA and Trump’s team about the boxes ON THE PALLETS, 6 pallets to be precise, that went to Florida from Virginia.

Here is the Bill Of Lading showing the 2 pallets going from the Transition team’s office supplied by the GSA in Virginia delivered to Mar A Lago.

No storage required.

The other 4 pallets were delivered from the same address to Life Storage in Palm Beach.

“This notice alerts you that the following shipment has been delivered.
Mon, Sep 20, 11:40 AM (3 days ago)

Message None
Shipment 040446066
Status: DELIVERED
Status Date: 09/20/2021
Status Definition: SHIPMENT HAS BEEN DELIVERED TO THE CONSIGNEE
Shipper: GSA CW50
2777 S CRYSTAL DR ARLINGTON, VA 22202
Consignee: MAR A LAGO CLUB
1100 S OCEAN BLVD PALM BEACH, FL 33480
Shipment Pieces: 2
Weight (lbs): 1437 (lbs)
Dates
Pickup: 09/09/2021
Actual Delivery: 09/20/2021”
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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One of Trump’s former lawyers in this case who quit explained it all on a Shawn Ryan podcast. Trump was the second president ever who was not given a secured file location to be used, every single other recent president has been given one. He also said none of the files contained anything remotely important, those are never given to leaving presidents. He also said the White House is so poorly managed/run that they never really know where and what is gone, not surprising via government not being efficient.
Biden clearly didn't have a clue which classified materials were where or when. He's even given an extra excuse, for being senile, and therefor he's not expected to know what, where, when or how.
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by FinsterRufus View Post
Sigh.

I posted the email chain between the GSA and Trump’s team about the boxes ON THE PALLETS, 6 pallets to be precise, that went to Florida from Virginia.

Here is the Bill Of Lading showing the 2 pallets going from the Transition team’s office supplied by the GSA in Virginia delivered to Mar A Lago.

No storage required.

The other 4 pallets were delivered from the same address to Life Storage in Palm Beach.

“This notice alerts you that the following shipment has been delivered.
Mon, Sep 20, 11:40 AM (3 days ago)

Message None
Shipment 040446066
Status: DELIVERED
Status Date: 09/20/2021
Status Definition: SHIPMENT HAS BEEN DELIVERED TO THE CONSIGNEE
Shipper: GSA CW50
2777 S CRYSTAL DR ARLINGTON, VA 22202
Consignee: MAR A LAGO CLUB
1100 S OCEAN BLVD PALM BEACH, FL 33480
Shipment Pieces: 2
Weight (lbs): 1437 (lbs)
Dates
Pickup: 09/09/2021
Actual Delivery: 09/20/2021”
You're fussing over the word "storage", why? Even the FBI agent had said the GSA had "stored" them during his testimony. Are you saying the FBI is lying?

https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/sta...-saga-n4928572


To get back on topic, please explain how,

If Butler helped move the 15 boxes that allegedly had classified info in them from MAL to an airplane that was headed for NJ, how is it that those particular boxes were still at MAL?
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Old 05-13-2024, 12:11 AM
 
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You're fussing over the word "storage", why? Even the FBI agent had said the GSA had "stored" them during his testimony. Are you saying the FBI is lying?

https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/sta...-saga-n4928572


To get back on topic, please explain how,

If Butler helped move the 15 boxes that allegedly had classified info in them from MAL to an airplane that was headed for NJ, how is it that those particular boxes were still at MAL?
You are the one that brought up the witness saying the “approximately 6 pallets of boxes were stored”.

They weren’t stored. They sat in the same place they were packed in until they were picked up by the courier.

It wouldn’t matter to anyone at all except you’re trying to make something out of it, and you keep bringing it up.

What do you mean “those particular boxes were still at MAL”? If those boxes had been in the shipment that went to MAL from Virginia, either intact as they arrived or repackaged from the various boxes after they arrived, they were at MAL since 9/20/21 when the pallets were delivered there.

Now you want to get back on topic. You asked for this information, you don’t like the answer, too bad.
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Old 05-13-2024, 12:32 AM
 
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You are the one that brought up the witness saying the “approximately 6 pallets of boxes were stored”.

They weren’t stored. They sat in the same place they were packed in until they were picked up by the courier.

It wouldn’t matter to anyone at all except you’re trying to make something out of it, and you keep bringing it up.
The GSA held on to boxes for about 9 months. I don't know about you but I would consider that storing them. and so did the FBI agent. but you know better. smh.
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What do you mean “those particular boxes were still at MAL”? If those boxes had been in the shipment that went to MAL from Virginia, either intact as they arrived or repackaged from the various boxes after they arrived, they were at MAL since 9/20/21 when the pallets were delivered there.

Now you want to get back on topic. You asked for this information, you don’t like the answer, too bad.
You've gone so far off the track carping about the use of the word "store" that you don't even know what this thread is about?
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Old 05-13-2024, 12:58 AM
 
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The GSA held on to boxes for about 9 months. I don't know about you but I would consider that storing them. and so did the FBI agent. but you know better. smh.


You've gone so far off the track carping about the use of the word "store" that you don't even know what this thread is about?
Source for the bold?

I’m asking you to clarify your statement, to your second paragraph.
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Old 05-13-2024, 01:34 AM
 
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Source for the bold?
For starters you can look at your own link. Any other questions then look to the unredacted emails.

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I’m asking you to clarify your statement, to your second paragraph.
Do you know what this thread is about?
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Old 05-14-2024, 05:02 PM
 
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The person referred to as "Employee #5" in various investigation and indictment documents, revealed his identity back in March and sat down for an interview. He goes into detail about what he saw, did, was told, as well as his working and personal relationships with the indicted co-conspirators. I hadn't seen this before, but I watched the whole interview. If you haven't watched it, it's worth a look.


Wow. "Worth a look", is an understatement. This dude's testimony is going to crush Trump's defense. He was there, he participated in moving the boxes, and he saw everything.

At the end of this video he describes listening to Andy Pratt, an Austrian billionaire who had just gotten out of a meeting with Trump and was riding in E5's car. Pratt often attends $1,000/plate dinners at Mara Lago, but actually gives $1M instead to buy influence. Pratt told his chief of staff who was also in the car that Trump had just given him military secret information about US and Soviet submarines.

E5 also describes the conversations about the security tapes, how long they were held for, and discussions about deleting them.

His testimony will be devastating at Trump's trial.
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