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Old 05-03-2024, 09:07 PM
 
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Illegitimate children and single motherhood are the biggest factors in causing poverty in the United States to this day.

That is the elephant in the room.
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Old 05-03-2024, 09:14 PM
 
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In the 1930s, Franklin Roosevelt introduced a welfare program into the New Deal. It was for mothers who didn't have a man in the home. The program was administered by the states though. And in the South, Blacks were often denied the ability to participate in such programs. No man in the home and you were Black? You had to work.

The thing is, excluding most Black women from ADC (the welfare program under FDR) didn't prevent Black Americans from having the highest rates of fatherless homes. It didn't prevent the highest rates of out of wedlock births. One reason putting the blame on welfare is disingenuous.
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Old 05-03-2024, 09:23 PM
 
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Illegitimate children and single motherhood are the biggest factors in causing poverty in the United States to this day.

That is the elephant in the room.
Illegitimate is an ancient term. You don’t need to be married to have kids. I think the enormous cost of daycare is a huge factor in poverty.
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:05 PM
 
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Illegitimate is an ancient term. You don’t need to be married to have kids.

Sure, make it "legitimate" then.

But then ANY woman should be able to afford to raise a child out of wedlock - rich or poor.

The question is - where does this woman suppose to take funds to raise this child if she is poor, since she can't work while being pregnant/nursing/taking care of the baby? If father is not legally obligated by any laws to stick around/to pay? Or if he simply doesn't have funds?
Who is going to pick up the tab then?



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I think the enormous cost of daycare is a huge factor in poverty.

Daycare is a business.

Business can only operate if it makes money.
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:17 PM
 
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Sure, make it "legitimate" then.

But then ANY woman should be able to afford to raise a child out of wedlock - rich or poor.

The question is - where does this woman suppose to take funds to raise this child if she is poor, since she can't work while being pregnant/nursing/taking care of the baby? If father is not legally obligated by any laws to stick around/to pay? Or if he simply doesn't have funds?
Who is going to pick up the tab then?






Daycare is a business.

Business can only operate if it makes money.
We are all picking up the tab especially red states.
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:24 PM
 
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We are all picking up the tab especially red states.

Well the question then - how big is the tab?

If it's small, it's one thing, but if it keeps on growing, then there will be a problem, don't you think?

And that's precisely what happened by the 90ies.

Plenty of people realized what happens with State/Federal budgets, when single mothers are paid a monthly check to stay at home and to raise children until they are five ( or whatever that age was.)
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:29 PM
 
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Well the question then - how big is the tab?

If it's small, it's one thing, but if it keeps on growing, then there will be a problem, don't you think?

And that's precisely what happened by the 90ies.

Plenty of people realized what happens with State/Federal budgets, when single mothers are paid a monthly check to stay at home and to raise children until they are five ( or whatever that age was.)
The tab will be much larger in red states. And you know why.
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:36 PM
 
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The tab will be much larger in red states. And you know why.

Not really, please explain.
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:42 PM
 
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Not really, please explain.
I would if I could but it would be off topic and considered hijacking the thread.
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:43 PM
 
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Illegitimate is an ancient term. You don’t need to be married to have kids. I think the enormous cost of daycare is a huge factor in poverty.
Stupid sex is the biggest factor. Come on. So stupid. Like a bunch of feral animals that can't stop screwing or killing each other.
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