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I don't know the Bible eh? How atheistic of you to ass-you-m. Here it is: Christ said: "I give them eternal life, and they will never perish".
You Godless people show up on Christian forums all the time so I thought I should pop into one of your meeting places. My post has nothing to do with "religion" and all to do with fear of death.
Researched and acquired the writings of Viktor Frankl.
Try him for some perspective on living and dying.
Do you have in mind anything other than Man's Search for Meaning? That books is mostly about how to find meaning in life, but doesn't really make use of the fact that our time is limited. I would consider reading other books by him since I did get a lot out of Meaning.
It’s a waste of time worrying about death. Only the present moment matters. Wondering through the passage ways of life at some point the gatekeeper will block the way without any prior notice.
I don't believe in reincarnation or life after death. I might be interested in reading about these topics later, but right now I'm looking for ideas from thinkers who also accept that death is real and not survivable. I'm not concerned about grief or reconnecting with loved ones who had already gone, just a respectful treatment of what being a mortal being means.
What can anything be written about? Of course death is real and is not survival. That is the definition of death. There is nothing to read about it other than reading about what miserable experience someone may have went through up til close to the end. Why would you want such a book?
Much of the discussion and angst over death is just a bunch of feel good word salad. You were born, life isn’t easy you die and disappear. Live in the present moment.
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I don't know the Bible eh? How atheistic of you to ass-you-m. Here it is: Christ said: "I give them eternal life, and they will never perish". You Godless people show up on Christian forums all the time so I thought I should pop into one of your meeting places. My post has nothing to do with "religion" and all to do with fear of death.
There are more than 5,000 names for God in recorded history, what reason is there to believe someone is "Godless" just because they don't happen to agree with your particular choice of God?
I don't believe in reincarnation or life after death. I might be interested in reading about these topics later, but right now I'm looking for ideas from thinkers who also accept that death is real and not survivable. I'm not concerned about grief or reconnecting with loved ones who had already gone, just a respectful treatment of what being a mortal being means.
If you believe, that "death is real" (kinda strange faith, as death IS real undoubtful fact of life, not requiring being believed into) - then what do you need books on it for? If the base of your concept of life is - I am done and over, then anything you learn on the subject was a waste. Just enjoy every moment of life, stay healthy to have decent aging and die in sleep.
What is that you are trying to accomplish?
If you believe, that "death is real" (kinda strange faith, as death IS real undoubtful fact of life, not requiring being believed into) - then what do you need books on it for? If the base of your concept of life is - I am done and over, then anything you learn on the subject was a waste. Just enjoy every moment of life, stay healthy to have decent aging and die in sleep.
What is that you are trying to accomplish?
I just googled 'odds of dying in one's sleep', and although a precise estimate is difficult to find, the stats suggest that the odds are no greater than 25%, and probably quite a bit less than that. This of course assumes that one does not make a deliberate effort to die in one's sleep (via drug consumption).
So, nice plan that you outlined, but unlikely to come to fruition
Ernst Becker's Denial of Death is a good philosophical treatise on death and humanity's obsession with ignoring or countering it with "immortality projects". It is all the more potent because Becker was dying as he wrote it.
I just googled 'odds of dying in one's sleep', and although a precise estimate is difficult to find, the stats suggest that the odds are no greater than 25%, and probably quite a bit less than that. This of course assumes that one does not make a deliberate effort to die in one's sleep (via drug consumption).
So, nice plan that you outlined, but unlikely to come to fruition
I lost two people last week - both were husbands' on my friends.
One died of a sudden heart attack at his front door - never made it into the house.
The other died of a sudden heart attack while driving. By the time his wife managed to stop the car at the side of the road, he was dead.
Both deaths were traumatic for their wives. However, these are the first sudden deaths I've known. Most people have long drawn out hospital stays.
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