Ending Small Farms (buy, law, agriculture)

[Mahayana]

The state rules - never mind what people want:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unOXcKigSuY&t=2s

[texasdiver]

It didn't take long to look up what is really going on here.

First, we aren't talking about small dairies. We are talking about "micro-dairies" or what are really hobby farms. In this day and age, when one hears the term "small dairy" one thinks of an operation with maybe 50 cows on 100 acres. Nope. What they are talking about in the video that you cited above are hobby farms with no more than 2 cows or 9 milk goats. So any farm that has more than 2 cows or 9 goats has always had to follow the normal CAFO rules.

Secondly, the process worked as it should. People testified about this decision by the Oregon Department of Agriculture that existing CAFO rules should apply to these sorts of hobby farms and the Department listed and decided to reverse its position, and will continue to treat them as exempt. https://www.capitalpress.com/state/oreg ... d488c.html

So the whole thing is a non-issue. In Oregon you can now continue to operate your hobby farm with 2 cows or 9 goats and not have to deal with CAFO rules. The government listened, reconsidered its position, and reversed course. Which is how things should work, correct?

[Silverfall]

You don't know what you are talking about. The water rights rules for Oregon have been in place forever. The issue is that the woman was growing CROPS and didn't understand the rules. The rules are clear and have been the same for decades. The 1/2 acre rule IS NOT new.

Yes, they are finally stepping up and starting to enforce water rights because we have had more droughts. It is that simple. This is why they are placing measuring devices on wells.

I have to say someone from CA complaining about water rights is beyond crazy. Y'all let bottling companies take your water and sell it back to you even in droughts. Maybe spend some time advocating for the bottling companies to stop using CA water?

[oregonwoodsmoke]

If you are stealing water, some one is going to notice at some point.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by Silverfall

You don't know what you are talking about. The water rights rules for Oregon have been in place forever. The issue is that the woman was growing CROPS and didn't understand the rules. The rules are clear and have been the same for decades. The 1/2 acre rule IS NOT new.

Yes, they are finally stepping up and starting to enforce water rights because we have had more droughts. It is that simple. This is why they are placing measuring devices on wells.

I have to say someone from CA complaining about water rights is beyond crazy. Y'all let bottling companies take your water and sell it back to you even in droughts. Maybe spend some time advocating for the bottling companies to stop using CA water?

Not only in Oregon, but everywhere. Water Rights go back to ancient Roman law and have been adopted virtually everywhere since then. If you want a surefire way to end small farms, end Water Rights and watch big farms divert all the water for their own use.

This story is just more MAGA fake news. Now they are saying, see this is why Oregon farmers need to join Idaho. Well, they can sell their land and buy land in Idaho. But the land in Idaho had better come with Water Rights or they aren't going to have any water for their crops.

[WiringGuru2]

Oregon is full of hobby farms I knew this rule change of theirs wouldn't last more than a week.

[texasdiver]

Originally Posted by cats_overlander

California had already mulled piping Columbia River water from Oregon to supply their insanely overgrown population which they pump up through open borders and all. Not happening. They can't lay their hands on Great Lakes water either, which they want to. They have no own water to speak of, all these unsustainable huge coastal cities supplied with stolen water from Colorado river and Hetch Hetchy (which had been destroyed), they're no one to bring up water rights.

Its not the population that is using all the water in California. It's agribusiness. 80% of the water used in California goes to agriculture. Lots of it to high-water crops like almonds and rice.

[JackieLovesSun]

Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz

This story is just more MAGA fake news. Now they are saying, see this is why Oregon farmers need to join Idaho. Well, they can sell their land and buy land in Idaho. But the land in Idaho had better come with Water Rights or they aren't going to have any water for their crops.

yep, I wanted to "like" your post but this forum thinks I should spread my likes around first so I will now QFT which I know means Quoted For Truth!