Permanent daylight saving time: Do most Oregonians and Washingtonians really want this? (Eugene: live, law)

[Luckystrike1]

I guess I'm the lone pariah who isn't bothered by the daylight savings.

[Dport7674]

Originally Posted by karlsch

Everybody Talks About Daylight Saving Time, But Nobody Does Anything About It.

They're all too busy capitalizing every word

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by Pahn

Scientists say we should be on permanent standard time, so I support that.

Who are these "scientists" you speak of?

[leastprime]

I see that 12/04/2023 that Portland's hi temp was 65... That's weather for shorts and flip-flops. If we were on DST, Portland would enjoy an hour more of daylight... if only the clouds move out-of-the-way.

[oregonwoodsmoke]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

Who are these "scientists" you speak of?

"Scientists" only means two or more. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a couple of scientists who advocate standard time.

Just guessing, but I suspect that "scientists" are pretty evenly divided among all standard time, all daylight savings time, and keep both. You could easily find scientists who support any clock plan that you want supported. But to me, it doesn't seem much like a "science" question, so the "scientists" opinion doesn't really carry any more weight than any other person's.

[ejisme]

Originally Posted by leastprime

I see that 12/04/2023 that Portland's hi temp was 65... That's weather for shorts and flip-flops. If we were on DST, Portland would enjoy an hour more of daylight... if only the clouds move out-of-the-way.

The number of hours of daylight doesn't change from standard to daylight savings time. The question is whether you want your daylight earlier in the morning or later at night?

[karlsch]

Originally Posted by ejisme

The number of hours of daylight doesn't change from standard to daylight savings time. The question is whether you want your daylight earlier in the morning or later at night?

Gosh!! I didn't know that. Thank you for informing me.

[E-Twist]

I want to stay on permanent standard time. I think it should at least be put to a vote. My side would probably lose * shrug.

[Pahn]

Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke

"Scientists" only means two or more. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a couple of scientists who advocate standard time.

Just guessing, but I suspect that "scientists" are pretty evenly divided among all standard time, all daylight savings time, and keep both. You could easily find scientists who support any clock plan that you want supported. But to me, it doesn't seem much like a "science" question, so the "scientists" opinion doesn't really carry any more weight than any other person's.

There's plenty there to science, dealing with circadian rhythms and whatnot. I don't have to understand it all to trust the word of people that study this stuff for a living, and who don't have a financial interest in any outcome.

Think about it, humans evolved with standard time, and have lived in standard time the vast majority of their existence.

If you want the opinion of a neuroscientist, I believe this was probably linked earlier in the thread: https://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...standard-time/

And no, scientists aren't evenly divided on this. None of them think the time change is a good idea, and as I get older, I agree. My body doesn't adjust well to the time change. Hell, per that link, polling even says a plurality of Americans support full time standard time.

[karlsch]

Originally Posted by Pahn

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Think about it, humans evolved with standard time, and have lived in standard time the vast majority of their existence.

Wrong.

For most of the long evolutionary history of humans, there was no standard time. Clocks didn’t even exist. People didn’t know “what time is it?” First calendars came about which helped agriculture, and eventually sundials were invented, but few humans had them. For most of human history, people just sensed that summers meant longer daylight and winters less.