Legaliizng Hard Drugs was a dumb move 1364 died last year (Portland: home, schools)

[rkcarguy]

[quote=Dport7674;66124690]The decriminalization movement wasn't prepared for fentanyl. It's a game changer

Outlaw all drugs, including alcohol, go back to handing out severe prison sentances.. And nothing would change except for the number of prisons needed and the tax increase to pay for them

No one has an answer

"Let them kill themselves" is something no one with any kind of morals and compassion would ever say[/QUOTE]

They say "blues" are as cheap as $1 a pill here in Bellingham.
The trickle down of this is a disaster, theft and burglary at unprecedented levels, everyday goods under lock and chain or in cages, stores having to bump prices being forced to eat the cost of theft, garbage fires,rodent infestations, no shopping carts(all stolen).....drug dealers stabbing and shooting each other over homeless camp territory....
And yes, when a state passes such stuff, it becomes the new destination for other states wanting to get rid of their trouble-makers.
The bolded, is our gov't of today.

[sam812]

Originally Posted by Dport7674

The decriminalization movement wasn't prepared for fentanyl. It's a game changer

Outlaw all drugs, including alcohol, go back to handing out severe prison sentances.. And nothing would change except for the number of prisons needed and the tax increase to pay for them

No one has an answer

"Let them kill themselves" is something no one with any kind of morals and compassion would ever say

I say I wish they would hurry up and kill themselves and take another like themselves with if possible. My compassion is for the real men and women who have to pay for these completely worthless scum. If there are people silly enough to care about these completely worthless people let them give the money to help those who won't even help themselves.

[oregonwoodsmoke]

Originally Posted by Dport7674

.........."Let them kill themselves" is something no one with any kind of morals and compassion would ever say

Why not? It is their choice. They made a conscious choice to use hard drugs and they have all had plenty of warning about what it does, and they have all seen what it has done to people around them. They are all given the knowledge about what the choice involves. They knew before they chose and they don't have any desire to be saved. Americans have the right of choice, let the addicts make their choice and stay out of it.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by Silverfall

You do realize that DAs can't charge everyone with every crime right? There aren't enough hours and time for that. They all make decisions about which cases to go after. Most DAs prioritize cases where other people are harmed, like murder, rape, assault, etc and let go of the marijuana possession cases. Personally, I think that is the right decision as someone smoking a joint in a parking lot isn't the same thing as rape or murder in my book.

Do you see those as the same thing?

I had to chuckle at that post. If a DA was going to prosecute all "dope crimes" in some districts they wouldn't have time to do anything else. Even eat or sleep.

[MickIlhenney]

Originally Posted by jcp123

The problem with addiction is that legality doesn’t play much of a role. You’re gonna get your fix, or quite literally die trying in some cases. Dangerous substances and substance abuse are medical issues first and foremost.

Not quite.

While legality will not govern an addict's behavior when it comes to getting his fix, unrestricted access to hard drugs will simply lead to more and more addicts. This is exactly what happened when Purdue Pharma started paying doctors to prescribe OxyContin to anyone who wanted it.

In July 2020, the Government of British Columbia in conjunction with Health Canada began a pilot project to provide addicts with pharmaceutical grade medication to prevent the epidemic of opioid overdoses occurring in Vancouver. The problem was that the addicts would see the pharmaceutical grade meds on the street (often to high school kids) and use the money to buy fentanyl. This resulted in an increase in both overdoses and addiction.

Here is a picture of American soldiers traversing an opium farm in Afghanistan. Keep in mind that virtually all opium produced domestically in Afghanistan is sold on the black market and usually refined into heroin. If there was a real war on drugs, these troops would have been carrying flamethrowers.

[fengxg]

Legalize hard drug is the way to go. The government shall tax on it and make money. The money can be used to prevent addictions. In another word, we shall use drug addiction's money to fix drug, not tax-payers money. Legalize drug will also eliminate drug-caused crimes, bankruptcy gangs.

Drug ban just doesn't work in democracies. Only countries like China can ban drug. They execute drug dealers. The US drug policy is a total disaster. The Mexican drug cartels make their living on our drug policy. When the drugs are legalized, they go bankruptcy immediately.

[Metlakatla]

Yeah, that's worked out really well for Oregon.

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by fengxg

Legalize hard drug is the way to go. The government shall tax on it and make money. The money can be used to prevent addictions. In another word, we shall use drug addiction's money to fix drug, not tax-payers money. Legalize drug will also eliminate drug-caused crimes, bankruptcy gangs.

Drug ban just doesn't work in democracies. Only countries like China can ban drug. They execute drug dealers. The US drug policy is a total disaster. The Mexican drug cartels make their living on our drug policy. When the drugs are legalized, they go bankruptcy immediately.

Are you for real? The naivete of some people is unbelievable.
When has use of tax dollars solved a societal issue? Tax money is used to create bureaucracies - THAT'S ALL!


Where would the incentive be to "solve the problem" when the bureaucrats rely on "the problem" for their tax payer funded largess?



States like Oregon are classic case studies in this approach - Do you really believe the tax payer funded Hobo tax will get rid of the Hobos? NO it won't - millions will be wasted on Non value added bureaucrats and such silliness.


Same thing happens with tax money from drug users.



Throughout history stupid people kill themselves. Let em.

[Lola The yorkie]

Originally Posted by Sand&Salt

Oh brother. Speak for yourself. There are plenty of us who use mj for legit reasons and guess what! We do not descend into hard drug use. Really! We take a small brownie for sleep, and never use it otherwise. We don't get high. I've never done another drug and nobody I know is a non-functioning "pot-head", lol.

And newsflash, some of us can drink and not become alcoholics either. Really!

I don't know the answer to fentanyl...maybe it is Darwin at work. We don't have that problem down here.

Not only. CBD which is Hemp …..does not make one high but is very very useful in pain relief…..
Legal in many many states.
Agree. Speak for yourself

[Lola The yorkie]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

Are you for real? The naivete of some people is unbelievable.
When has use of tax dollars solved a societal issue? Tax money is used to create bureaucracies - THAT'S ALL!


Where would the incentive be to "solve the problem" when the bureaucrats rely on "the problem" for their tax payer funded largess?



States like Oregon are classic case studies in this approach - Do you really believe the tax payer funded Hobo tax will get rid of the Hobos? NO it won't - millions will be wasted on Non value added bureaucrats and such silliness.


Same thing happens with tax money from drug users.



Throughout history stupid people kill themselves. Let em.

So the tax dollars used for schools roads. Etc are BAD

Yikes