How did Biden not win Ohio?

[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by ohioaninsc

Ohio GOP continues to take this state backwards...even moderates like DeWine can no longer reign the idiots in that party in...DeWine thoughtfully did the right thing to protect Trans kids by vetoing their crazy evil legislation in House Bill 68, but they plan to override it even though DeWine put out an EO that thoughtfully protected Trans Kids by allowing certain treatments that save their lives w/ parental consent.

This party wants nothing good for Ohio

Yes, and they are actively attempting to circumvent last November's voter referendums abortion rights and recreational marijuana.

[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by KingRandor82

From my understanding, Biden won a lot less than you think.

Call me some "fringe, kook, Qanon right wing tin-foil nutjob", if you want, I'm just telling you from that which I've been seeing.

There's a reason this hasn't hit the mainstream yet..but will soon.

All I can tell you is "business as usual", as we've known it, is dead.

Oh, and if you get the chance, feel free to look up Executive Order 13848, and take note it got extended in September...then ask yourself why

Another right-wing conspiracy theory?

[Karl Lagos]

Originally Posted by ABQConvict

Ohio suffers from severe brain drain. That affects the political/ideological balance of the state.

Ohio's bellweather staus is no more as it becomes more like the deep south in terms of belief in science vs. Christian conservatism.

Interesting. Do you find is strange the most overly educated elitest vote the same as the most uneducated poorest? Getting degrees often = indoctrination as in cultural marxism. Most that preach it, like Marx, don't believe in it. They use it to gain power. It's dialectic satanic garbage.

[kyle19125]

I'm not sure how anyone below the top 3% income bracket, not a religious fanatic or other brainwashed wingnut could vote against their own best interests. The GOP overall has zero empathy for the poor or middle class and it shows in their congressional voting record.

[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by ram2

The city of Detroit has been voting Democrat since 1962. That has turned out to be a disaster.

Detroit's issues are due to changes in American manufacturing in general and the auto industry in particular, not the result if having a Democratic city government. If that were the cause, how would you explain the fact that the nation's most prosperous and innovative states strongly trend Democratic?

[Karl Lagos]

Originally Posted by robertbrianbush

Detroit's issues are due to changes in American manufacturing in general and the auto industry in particular, not the result if having a Democratic city government. If that were the cause, how would you explain the fact that the nation's most prosperous and innovative states strongly trend Democratic?

No Detroit governance is identical to African governance. Has nothing to do with the auto industry. The smart people moved out. Some of the smart have moved back in recently.

[ohio_peasant]

Originally Posted by robertbrianbush

The urban problems faced by inner cities in America or not the result of being run by Democrats...they tend to vote Democratic because that is the party more attuned to inner city issues. The problems faced by our inner cities have been present as long as America has had cities, and are largely the problems faced by cities the world over.
You are ignoring the fact that most of the more prosperous and innovative states also trend Democratic.

Cities worldwide tend to be more liberal or left-leaning than the suburbs, smaller towns or especially the countryside. This is true in richer countries, poorer ones, or anywhere in between. The frictions and attractions of urban-life tend to produce a more outward-looking, change-oriented mindset.... the very opposite of veneration for tradition or repudiation of novelty.

The right-leaning party was traditionally (pun intended) the party of "establishment", of big-business, of the so-called insiders, who tended to benefit from the system and who oppose radical change, if not for doctrinal reasons, then for pecuniary ones. What's so strange in modern American politics is that this right-leaning party has cleft in two... the so-called mainstream Republicans, and MAGA. The latter may be culturally conservative, but it repudiates so many longstanding notions, such as a strong outward-looking American foreign policy, free trade, or deference to established authorities such as technical experts or professional politicians. MAGA is in many regards a radical leftist movement, seeking rapid and tumultuous change, by throwing the so-called bums out.

Disenchantment with the establishment is something that really resonates with middle-classes, and former middle-classes who feel squeezed and dispossessed. The relatively comfortable now regard themselves as uncomfortable, and vote for the so-called conservative party, which is being taken over by radicals.

Put another way, Ohio or Middle America overall, would not much embrace the Republican party of Romney, McCain or Papa Bush. But it is wholeheartedly embracing... whatever the Republican party has become.

[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by Karl Lagos

No Detroit governance is identical to African governance. Has nothing to do with the auto industry. The smart people moved out. Some of the smart have moved back in recently.

Detroit's issues have nothing to do with the auto industry collapse???Come on!
It sounds as though you are trying to push some racist ideology.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by KingRandor82

From my understanding, Biden won a lot less than you think.

Call me some "fringe, kook, Qanon right wing tin-foil nutjob", if you want, I'm just telling you from that which I've been seeing.

There's a reason this hasn't hit the mainstream yet..but will soon.

All I can tell you is "business as usual", as we've known it, is dead.

Oh, and if you get the chance, feel free to look up Executive Order 13848, and take note it got extended in September...then ask yourself why

Lemme guess..."2000 Mules" strikes again?

[Matt Marcinkiewicz]

Originally Posted by ohioaninsc

Unfortunately, Ohio has too many backwards angry rural white guys that are uneducated and pissed at a everyone else for their own shortcomings...they refuse to better themselves and move out of their crap little towns w/ no futures...Trump spoke to them, and of course stoked their anger and resentment to vote in mass...

I fear Ohio has become lost like Missouri, another state that has 2 large cities at each end and is a backwater across the rest of the state...The Democrats need to work extra hard in the cities here to get the voters to the polls...Cleveland/Cuyahoga County didn't have near the numbers of voters that last 2 elections at the polls that we had for Obama in 08/12...I wish Obama could train the Ohio Democrat Party how to organize and reach out better...or they need to go learn from Stacy Abrams whose work has finally changed Georgia from deep red to purple.

Great post, sir.

I'm very concerned about this upcoming November