The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Culver City: real estate, how much, neighborhood)

[Taiko]

Originally Posted by majoun

Not at all. LA is even worse than those cities, and worse than any city in Mexico to boot.

Build the camps.

The problem with build the camps is will they come. Whether they are in the out reaches of the county or built on old city owned parking lots will we let them bring in their self medication without unreasonable search and seizure? Will we provide privacy to allow them to attempt to reproduce or masturbate? Without that we are then turning this over to the Sheriff/ Department of Corrections and forcing them into the camp/urban building? Something which our courts have repeatedly struck down

[elhelmete]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Prop HHH (the 1.2 billion bond measure) passed in November. The funds are now starting to be used.

In the decades following World War II, when the suburbs were young and the car was king, Los Angeles went on a land-buying spree.

The city bought parcels in every size and shape, demolished any buildings on them and opened parking lots to serve emerging commercial districts.

By the 1970s the buying had mostly stopped, and today these 119 public lots blend into the urban quilt all but indistinguishable from their free-market competitors.

But now the city is cultivating plans that could transform much of that land again, this time from asphalt to multistory apartment buildings to house chronically homeless people.

A plan to house L.A.'s homeless residents could transform parking lots across the city

What happened to the so-called 'Millionaire Tax' Prop a few years ago that was dedicated to mental health care including earmarks for the homeless? Where did that $$ go?

[Taiko]

A combination of weather and a large base of people willing to provide some small amount of support in direct handouts and to agencies providing the occasional meal and other missionary type services.

[Kings Gambit]

Originally Posted by Fael

It's really impressive how LA (in fact California or either US) has so many homeless people. Why that?
High rental prices? Overcrowed city? Any reason?

None of the above. You sound like one of the regular guys here who constantly complain and complain and complain about things in LA but wont move.

Lots of the homeless who are not suffering from mental health issues or substance abuse problems are here from other parts of the U.S. because of our high minimum wage and weather. They know that if they can find a job ANYWHERE, they will be make much more than anywhere else in the country which gives them a better chance of getting off the streets even with the high cost of living in Los Angeles. Also, its much better to be homeless in sunny southern California than homeless in Michigan or Ohio.

Now the homeless people who suffer from substance abuse and mental issues are another story altogether. This problem goes all the way back to when Reagan (who was lobbied by pharmaceutical companies) defunded mental health facilities which ended up putting a LOT of these types of people on the streets. His (and their) thinking was that it would be cheaper and easier to treat these types with medication instead of physical facilities and we are STILL suffering from this as of today. The old "Lets give them a shot of this medication and they'll be normal again" doesnt work and hasnt worked.

Another problem with the mental health/substance abuse homeless is that many of them came from parts of the country where they were ingrained with "dont trust the government" mindset. So even if/when they are give help, or taken to place that offers them help, they leave after a day or two to go right back on the streets.

I know some may think its cute to start threads about homeless (some here even create new/alternate profiles just to complain) but if you are REALLY interested and if you REALLY have that big of a concern about it, there are many places you can volunteer to help.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by elhelmete

What happened to the so-called 'Millionaire Tax' Prop a few years ago that was dedicated to mental health care including earmarks for the homeless? Where did that $$ go?

Voters passed the tax on milionaires in November, 2016. Can't find any info about where that $ is.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Kings Gambit

None of the above. You sound like one of the regular guys here who constantly complain and complain and complain about things in LA but wont move.

Lots of the homeless who are not suffering from mental health issues or substance abuse problems are here from other parts of the U.S. because of our high minimum wage and weather. They know that if they can find a job ANYWHERE, they will be make much more than anywhere else in the country which gives them a better chance of getting off the streets even with the high cost of living in Los Angeles. Also, its much better to be homeless in sunny southern California than homeless in Michigan or Ohio.

Now the homeless people who suffer from substance abuse and mental issues are another story altogether. This problem goes all the way back to when Reagan (who was lobbied by pharmaceutical companies) defunded mental health facilities which ended up putting a LOT of these types of people on the streets. His (and their) thinking was that it would be cheaper and easier to treat these types with medication instead of physical facilities and we are STILL suffering from this as of today. The old "Lets give them a shot of this medication and they'll be normal again" doesnt work and hasnt worked.

Another problem with the mental health/substance abuse homeless is that many of them came from parts of the country where they were ingrained with "dont trust the government" mindset. So even if/when they are give help, or taken to place that offers them help, they leave after a day or two to go right back on the streets.

I know some may think its cute to start threads about homeless (some here even create new/alternate profiles just to complain) but if you are REALLY interested and if you REALLY have that big of a concern about it, there are many places you can volunteer to help.

Reagan might have started this problem but that was 40 years ago. Why is it still this way?? Why can't we take some of the tax money and build mental hospitals?? Politicians are failing the homeless and while there are enablers feeding them and giving them enough materials to survive on the street I don't think the homeless mind. A lot of them have totally adapted to life on the street and even like it.

[Miss Pip]

Excluding the usual mental illness etc. which is everywhere.

LA has a problem because of it's great weather. Hollywood, lots of broken dreams, drugs etc. I personally know people that are homeless because they refuse to work a regular job, they're so focused on wanting to be in the entertainment/music industry and their ego gets in the way.

If you drive around La Brea near the Sprouts you'll see lots of young people living in tents with their trendy clothes and smart phones.

Also feeding the homeless is trendy.

When you feed pigeons you get more.

[BlinkingBlythe]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

So for our tax money their going to build brand new, spick and span housing for these bums who will promptly destroy them.

So you don't want any homeless, and yet you don't want them to have any housing? Let me guess:

You are a neo-nazi who wants them exterminated, right?

Thy're ferrell, they don't want any responsibility at all. And who is going to be the lucky ones who get chosen for this new housing?

For one thing, it's "feral", and second how dare you judge all of them for the actions of some? I really hope karma bites you in the *** hard, and you end up as one of those "ferrell"(sic) homeless people you so despise.

[BlinkingBlythe]

Originally Posted by majoun

Not at all. LA is even worse than those cities, and worse than any city in Mexico to boot.

Build the camps.

You get to go first then.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Miss Pip

When you feed pigeons you get more.

^ Yes x 1000.