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Old 05-15-2024, 05:52 AM
 
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A transgender with male chromosomes is not a female. Never will be.
And while that makes for good headlines, it's not actually the legal matter up for debate in this case. The issue is strictly whether the county executive has the legal authority to make such a ban, and he does not.

There are other parties that could address this, such as the leagues themselves or the Board of Regents or the State Department of Education. None of those are the Nassau County Executive.
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:37 AM
 
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And while that makes for good headlines, it's not actually the legal matter up for debate in this case. The issue is strictly whether the county executive has the legal authority to make such a ban, and he does not.

There are other parties that could address this, such as the leagues themselves or the Board of Regents or the State Department of Education. None of those are the Nassau County Executive.
Board of Regents or State Ed Dept has no jurisdiction on privately run sports outside of schools.
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Old 05-15-2024, 10:58 AM
 
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Board of Regents or State Ed Dept has no jurisdiction on privately run sports outside of schools.
They have control over school sports. The private leagues have control over eligibility for their respective sports. College athletic associations control eligibility for their sports. This doesn't negate the fact that NONE of these entities are the County Executive, which is the whole LEGAL matter at stake in this case.
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Old 05-15-2024, 12:11 PM
 
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They have control over school sports. The private leagues have control over eligibility for their respective sports. College athletic associations control eligibility for their sports. This doesn't negate the fact that NONE of these entities are the County Executive, which is the whole LEGAL matter at stake in this case.
you basically just restated what I said...... and the County Exec controls the land/buildings used.... of course he has some say on who can rent them...
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Old 05-16-2024, 03:59 AM
 
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you basically just restated what I said...... and the County Exec controls the land/buildings used.... of course he has some say on who can rent them...
Only if his criteria meet federal and state law. He can't refuse to rent to any group based on gender identity as it violates NYS Human Rights Law. Much in the same way he couldn't decide that we are not renting county facilities to people from a certain religious or racisl background. The law covers them the same way.


His trans ban also oversteps his authority by addressing specific matters of player eligibility that are of the authority of the leagues or organizations involved. He's not addressing whether athletes have met academic standards, live in the appropriate district, meet age restrictions, or have paid dues to private organizations.

He can try to ban specific leagues or individuals for business reasons, such as the league owing the county money or the individuals having been previously removed from county facilities for some form of misconduct. There can be no discrimination based upon a protected category.

He can push the leagues to refine their eligibility requirements but not pick and choose who he wants in his facilities based only upon that factor, when the group is otherwise eligible to use the facility.

The Board of Regents is also in the middle of a rule-making process to expand mixed-gender athletic opportunities. What does the executive do then?
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Old 05-16-2024, 05:46 AM
 
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And while that makes for good headlines, it's not actually the legal matter up for debate in this case. The issue is strictly whether the county executive has the legal authority to make such a ban, and he does not.

There are other parties that could address this, such as the leagues themselves or the Board of Regents or the State Department of Education. None of those are the Nassau County Executive.
The CE controls all Nassau County parks, fields, gymnasiums and buildings under Nassau County Parks.

The taxpayers of Nassau are conservative working people not self-hating Marxists like NYC voters.

The taxpayers do not want men playing women's sports and dressing the women's/girls locker rooms.

The simple solution is to create a transgender sports leagues category. But that is not the agenda of the globalists and their puppet democrats. It's about damaging kids at an early age about their gender and destroying them before they can reproduce and create a normal nuclear family.
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Old 05-16-2024, 06:26 AM
 
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The Board of Regents is also in the middle of a rule-making process to expand mixed-gender athletic opportunities. What does the executive do then?
What do the parents of the smaller, weaker girls do then?
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Old 05-16-2024, 06:42 AM
 
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Only if his criteria meet federal and state law. He can't refuse to rent to any group based on gender identity as it violates NYS Human Rights Law. Much in the same way he couldn't decide that we are not renting county facilities to people from a certain religious or racisl background. The law covers them the same way.


His trans ban also oversteps his authority by addressing specific matters of player eligibility that are of the authority of the leagues or organizations involved. He's not addressing whether athletes have met academic standards, live in the appropriate district, meet age restrictions, or have paid dues to private organizations.

He can try to ban specific leagues or individuals for business reasons, such as the league owing the county money or the individuals having been previously removed from county facilities for some form of misconduct. There can be no discrimination based upon a protected category.

He can push the leagues to refine their eligibility requirements but not pick and choose who he wants in his facilities based only upon that factor, when the group is otherwise eligible to use the facility.

The Board of Regents is also in the middle of a rule-making process to expand mixed-gender athletic opportunities. What does the executive do then?
again the board of regents has nothing to say over PRIVATE LEAGUES
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Old 05-16-2024, 11:13 AM
 
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again the board of regents has nothing to say over PRIVATE LEAGUES
They don't. But they control school leagues. You're intentionally choosing to ignore that the fact is this order is aimed primarily at interscholastic sports which make up the majority of leagues in the county and users of county facilities.
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Old 05-16-2024, 11:15 AM
 
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What do the parents of the smaller, weaker girls do then?
Take it up with the State, not the County Executive. He doesn't determine eligibility to participate in the leagues.

Even if he somehow found a way to make this order valid, he can't prohibit people from participating in leagues that aren't run by the county.
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