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Old 03-17-2024, 12:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I was in the Marine Corps in 1966 and stationed at the Marine Corps Supply Center in Albany GA. Albany was totally segregated. I can recall for instance sitting in a bar near base with fellow Marines. One of our black Marines came in and was told to leave immediately as it was a whites only establishment. Mind you many of our Marines, black and white, had been in Vietnam or were going.
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Old 03-17-2024, 10:00 PM
 
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As for me, I am Native American. Georgia forcibly removed most of its Native Americans in the 1830s into Indian
Territory.
The Cherokees had actually won their legal case in the US Supreme Court to stop the relocation. But
President Andrew Jackson ignored it. Hence, Georgia does have its dark history of racism, segregation, and genocide.
It was the Federal government that moved tribes of the Cherokee Nation in NW Georgia to Oklahoma Territory.

As you say, it was a policy of Andrew Jackson and others. After the Jackson administration it stopped bc the people being moved were so traumatized. Many left OK and returned to GA at that time. There was a lot of intermarrying between Native Americans, whites and free blacks throughout the Southeast.

Read an interesting article several years ago discussing the possibility of the eastern Cherokee
who were sent west training western tribes military cavalry tactics they had observed from the US military. And which were later used against Custer and others in the Indian Wars.

Even by the mid 1800s indigenous people had only had horses for a few hundred years. While they were excellent horsemen they rode full tilt straight into the enemy without tactical use of cavalry.

The author of the article opined that Eastern Indians, who had far more military contact with first the British and French and then the US armies, observed and retained the European use of cavalry in strategy and trained western tribes in the skill. He said while it wasn't easy to prove beyond a doubt it was an intriguing theory.
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Old 03-18-2024, 05:54 AM
 
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Between 1827 and 1831 Georgia passed laws saying GA had jurisdiction over Cherokee territory, they said they could override and abolish Cherokee law and government, and started the process to seize the Cherokees’ lands, divide it and sell it. The Indian Removal Act, permitted the federal govt. to take the lead in the removal.
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Old 03-18-2024, 07:18 AM
 
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Because Federalism was more than a wink and a nod, the way it is today, the appearance of a state formally requesting action from the F govt was followed.
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Old 03-18-2024, 08:21 AM
 
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Actually the vote was very close. 101 to 97 in the House. https://mcimaps.com/historic-us-elections/
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Old 03-18-2024, 09:13 AM
 
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Yep. In fact until there was a big outcry, there were plans to close voting sites in predominately black counties:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1L51ZP
Stacy Abrams details vote suppression, exposing the many mechanisms used to achieve it, after her unsuccessful run for governor (against the State Attorney General, who was in charge of election supervision), and after her successful attempt to get out the vote for Biden, in her book, "Our Time Is Now". In order to ensure that as many Dem votes were counted (AFTER motivating the electorate to turn out in force), she had to organize hot lines in urban and rural locales for voters to call when they encountered obstructions at the polls. She had to train the staffers at those hotlines in the many issues that could arise, and how to overcome those barriers. Even so, not all voters were able to resolve the problems they encountered at the polling stations.

What a sad statement about our hobbled democracy, that it should be necessary to train and deploy an army of activists to help voters to exercise their right to the franchise! This is what needs to be done in states with a history of vote suppression: Arizona, the Dakotas, the Southern states, Ohio, etc. to guarantee access to the ballot box. Unfortunately, most of those states lack such a determined and highly qualified figure as Stacy Abrams to lead the charge against vote suppression.


https://www.amazon.com/Our-Time-Now-...s%2C121&sr=8-1
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Old 03-18-2024, 12:43 PM
 
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It was the Federal government that moved tribes of the Cherokee Nation in NW Georgia to Oklahoma Territory.

As you say, it was a policy of Andrew Jackson and others. After the Jackson administration it stopped bc the people being moved were so traumatized. Many left OK and returned to GA at that time. There was a lot of intermarrying between Native Americans, whites and free blacks throughout the Southeast.

Read an interesting article several years ago discussing the possibility of the eastern Cherokee
who were sent west training western tribes military cavalry tactics they had observed from the US military. And which were later used against Custer and others in the Indian Wars.

Even by the mid 1800s indigenous people had only had horses for a few hundred years. While they were excellent horsemen they rode full tilt straight into the enemy without tactical use of cavalry.

The author of the article opined that Eastern Indians, who had far more military contact with first the British and French and then the US armies, observed and retained the European use of cavalry in strategy and trained western tribes in the skill. He said while it wasn't easy to prove beyond a doubt it was an intriguing theory.
Nobody gave a hoot on how many Cherokee or members of other forcefully removed Nations very traumatized.
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