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Originally Posted by mhays25
Even the oil companies acknowledge the human role in climate change.
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That isn't quite true. You've been lied to.
Since you weren't alive in the 1970s you don't remember His Supreme Excellency the Majestic Royal Highness Governor-General-Colonel Grand Imperial Kleagle Wizard President Emperor-for-Life Doctor Carl Sagan
dada standing on Jimmy Carter's desk in the Offal Office screaming that glaciers would be rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue if Carter didn't do something
right this minute!
Sagan was wrong, of course, just like the pompous ass was wrong about a great many things and even worse he lied about things like nuclear winter and it was probably because he was a dope-smoking fiend.
You do understand that if we have another mini-Ice Age at least 2 Billion people on this Earth will die, right?
No, I didn't stutter. 2 Billion people will die. At least. I would put it at 3-4 Billion.
Why?
Well, your government already uses/used the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, mercenaries, agents provocateur and the CIA to overthrow governments and steal all oil, natural gas, coal, rubber, iron, nickel, aluminum, rare earth minerals/metals and coffee, chocolate, sugar cane, bananas and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Plus steal 100% of the profits (because US companies commit fraud and devalue their assets to avoid paying taxes or the paltry 8% profit royalty owed under the treaties).
If you think West Africans are gonna fall on their swords and keep growing coffee, chocolate and sugar cane so's you can drink lattes and eat candy while the starve to death you better think again.
They'll plow under those fields and start growing food crops.
And then the Army will go and steal it all.
Your life will be a living hell. Food will be rationed and if you have at least one part-time wage earner in your household it will be a banner day and all of your income will go to rent and food.
And heat.
During the mini-Ice Age the growing season for everything above 40°N/40*°S was 6 weeks. That's basically everything north of I-80 in the US.
For 30°N/30°S to 40°N/40°S the growing season was 10 weeks.
Crop yields were drastically reduced which is one reason why the 100+ New England Colonies merged into one giant super-Colony called the Dominion for a few years before breaking up into smaller colonies and then the colonies we know and love.
I'm guessing you don't farm. You take a 2 pound sledgehammer and a 4' standar rebar rod out into the fields and hit the rebar with the sledgehammer.
If it goes 2 inches into the soil you can clear your fields and plant. If not, you'll have to wait until the ground thaws.
Ain't no technology on this Earth gonna save you.
Which brings us to Exxon, formerly Standard Oil of New Jersey.
If there's gonna be glaciers rumbling down Pennsylvania Avenue like His Supreme Excellency the Majestic Royal Highness Governor-General-Colonel Grand Imperial Kleagle Wizard President Emperor-for-Life Doctor Carl Sagan
dada says there will be, the oil companies need to know that.
Yes, they have pumps that can work in arctic/cold weather conditions but the normal pumps don't so they'd have to be modified/weatherized at great cost and expense.
The colder it gets the more viscous oil gets making it harder to flow through pipelines so you have to add chemicals which costs even more.
At the processing facility (not the same thing as a refinery) you have to remove the water/sea-water, and particulate matter like dinosaur bones and heavy metals like Uranium, Vanadium, Nickel and Mercury plus the chemicals which costs more.
That was the 1970s and there were Millions of homes heated by oil. Ours was. Are you going to be able to get them enough oil?
Remember, all oils are not created equally.
The rest of the world has the Dom Perignon of oils and you got the Mad 20/20 of oils with a little Thunderbird and Boone's farm thrown in.
Canadian Tar Sands = 3-4 gallons of gasoline
California Heavy/Oklahoma Heavy = 9 gallons of gasoline.
Illinois Intermediate = 13 gallons gasoline
West Texas Intermediate = 19 gallons gasoline
Brent Blend = 21 gallons gasoline
Tijuana Light =24 gallons gasoline
Arab Light = 26 gallons gasoline
Murban = 29 gallons gasoline.
Green River Shale?
ZERO gallons gasoline. Like most shale oils that you're fracking away destroying everything it has no C8H18 (that's Octane aka gasoline).
Diesels, kerosenes and fuel oils are the same way. You need #1 fuel oil mixed with #2 fuel oil (which is not the same as #1 diesel and #2 diesel).
So, Exxon hires scientists to see if this global cooling thing is real and they report no it isn't and not only will it not cool but temperatures might actually rise.
How accurate were they?
63% to 83%.
When I taught Intro to International Relations and Intro to Foreign Policy and US Foreign Policy students who scored 63% got an F and 83% got a C.
So, no, Exxon did not get an A or B.
Why 63% to 83%?
Their short-range projections were more accurate than their long range projections.
As the scientists discovered, modeling climate is really, really complicated.
That's attorney work product or proprietary info and Exxon had no legal, moral or ethical duty to disclose it.
Global warming is preferable to global cooling and there's no harm.
Earth is warm and wet or cold and dry but never in its history has Earth been warm and dry or cold and wet.
That's because water vapor is the driver of climate and not CO2.