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Old 04-11-2024, 07:46 AM
 
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I think in Austin there are two big factors here: 1.) The workers downtown are mostly in government and tech, both have which have leaned hard into hybrid schedules. Tue-Thursday is more packed than ever but on Monday and Friday the traffic is *much* lighter. 2.) while nightlife has fully recovered in a general sense, rising rents and condo development have pushed a lot of nightlife outside of the boundaries of "downtown" (and this article has an especially strict definition of downtown). Overall things feel fairly healthy, though.
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Old 04-11-2024, 10:50 AM
 
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They're trying to define a "core office district" (my words), not really "downtown."
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Old 04-11-2024, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I'm not surprised to see Chicago towards the bottom of the list. The loop which it defines as downtown has been seriously struggling post covid. You used to have lines out the door for dining options during lunch, now many of the lunch spots have started to close.
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Old 04-11-2024, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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I'm not surprised to see Chicago towards the bottom of the list. The loop which it defines as downtown has been seriously struggling post covid. You used to have lines out the door for dining options during lunch, now many of the lunch spots have started to close.
I must say, I visited Chicago for the first time in November, and I was excited to check out Michigan Ave. I was sorely disappointed with the lack of energy. It was quite dead for a place of its size.
Gorgeous city for sure, but I was expecting more hustle-and-bustle on the ground.
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Old 04-11-2024, 05:36 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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There was a very "doom and gloom" WSJ article yesterday on downtown St. Louis.

The Real Estate Nightmare Unfolding in Downtown St. Louis
The office district is empty, with boarded up towers, copper thieves and failing retail—even the Panera outlet shut down. The city is desperately trying to reverse the ‘doom loop.’


[url]https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/doom-loop-st-louis-44505465?mod=hp_lead_pos7[/url
That section of downtown St. Louis continues to be a problem, but it also predated Covid by years. We're allegedly supposed to have redevelopment plans for the AT&T Building and the Railway Exchange Building later this year.

Also, it's a bit annoying that the writer just causally threw out there at the end of the article that other parts of downtown are doing well, but then didn't really elaborate on them.
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Old 04-12-2024, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I must say, I visited Chicago for the first time in November, and I was excited to check out Michigan Ave. I was sorely disappointed with the lack of energy. It was quite dead for a place of its size.
Gorgeous city for sure, but I was expecting more hustle-and-bustle on the ground.
Yea, it's a shame. It used to be shoulder to shoulder on the sidewalks. Unfortunate side effect from covid and work from home.
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Old 04-13-2024, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Charleston’s downtown hit pre-pandemic foot traffic in 2021. It’s more bonkers than ever now. City pop 156,000+, MSA 849,000+

https://www.counton2.com/news/king-s...ic-levels/amp/
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