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Old 02-05-2024, 09:58 PM
 
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4-5 points in a poll doesn't mean anything polls have been wrong since 2016.

The difference was the polls were never in favor of Trump in both 2016 and 2020 and he won 30 states in 2016 (won) and 25 states in 2020 (lost). Joe is so unpopular now that more people are telling pollsters they will vote for Trump.


Forget the polls for a minute. Are you also questioning his approval @37%. That is also wrong too.


Joe is - on the economy, border, and foreign policy and you are still in denial. OK
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Old 02-05-2024, 10:06 PM
 
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In February 2007 Obama had 24% in the polls compared to Hillary at 36%.

Your point?

No, Obama had a 49% approval and what counted was that he had better numbers than Romney. Obama won Ohio twice and shut down any possibility for a Republican to win without Ohio.


Joe has a 37% approval and you act like that doesn't exist and means nothing. Joe is going to lose Ohio by double digits and lose the election. See the difference?
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Old 02-05-2024, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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No, Obama had a 49% approval and what counted was that he had better numbers than Romney. Obama won Ohio twice and shut down any possibility for a Republican to win without Ohio.


Joe has a 37% approval and you act like that doesn't exist and means nothing. Joe is going to lose Ohio by double digits and lose the election. See the difference?
In February 2007?
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Old 02-05-2024, 10:19 PM
 
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High Point University poll has 73% of North Carolinans thinking the US is on the wrong track with Trump up by 3%, 40-43 to 7% 3rd party, and Bidens favorably at 33%
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Old 02-06-2024, 12:08 AM
 
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In February 2007?

So now you have to go to 2007, before Obama entered the primary. Yeah, that is the exact same thing with a sitting President entering his 3rd year with 37% approvals. Same scenario. Like Obama did in 2008, Joe is going to light it up in the campaign trail and speeches and turn the numbers around.
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Old 02-06-2024, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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In February 2007 Obama had 24% in the polls compared to Hillary at 36%.

Your point?
O'Bama & Hillary were in the same political party, neither had been President before, polling's gotten better in the past 17 years, O'Bama was a young articulate unknown who gained late, when people heard him speak.

I don't see many similarities to this race's polling at all. This is 2 very well known candidates that everybody has heard speak, and both have been President before. They are in opposing political parties, and the polls were both done a few days ago...& Trump's lead has become a consistent theme for weeks, across nearly every poll.

Biden's no young stud Thoroughbread who is going to blow by anyone in the last furlong. This race is the tortoise & the slug.

So, my point's valid..your's is ancient history w/o compare....poor analogy.

That is my point.
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Old 02-06-2024, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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So now you have to go to 2007, before Obama entered the primary. Yeah, that is the exact same thing with a sitting President entering his 3rd year with 37% approvals. Same scenario. Like Obama did in 2008, Joe is going to light it up in the campaign trail and speeches and turn the numbers around.
You nailed it...poor analogy by cuebald...Apples and Oranges.
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Old 02-06-2024, 05:09 AM
 
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High Point University poll has 73% of North Carolinans thinking the US is on the wrong track with Trump up by 3%, 40-43 to 7% 3rd party, and Bidens favorably at 33%
The # of polls showing Trump leading, or doing better than in 2020, geographically & demographically, issue by issue, cognitively, in key States, & over a long period of time is the main point here.

Even the Dems know Biden's gonna lose...Axlerod is one of their best political analysts, and he asked Joe to step aside weeks ago.

Yesterday, Biden said in a speech that he just spoke to Francois Mitterrand on the phone...Mitterrand died in 1996!
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Old 02-06-2024, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So now you have to go to 2007, before Obama entered the primary. Yeah, that is the exact same thing with a sitting President entering his 3rd year with 37% approvals. Same scenario. Like Obama did in 2008, Joe is going to light it up in the campaign trail and speeches and turn the numbers around.
That was my post you responded to. I was noting that at this same point in 2007, Obama was 12 points behind Hillary. My post was in response to the 4% that Trump is suppose to be leading Biden.

Please try to follow along.
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Old 02-06-2024, 05:13 AM
 
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O'Bama & Hillary were in the same political party, neither had been President before, polling's gotten better in the past 17 years, O'Bama was a young articulate unknown who gained late, when people heard him speak.

I don't see many similarities to this race's polling at all. This is 2 very well known candidates that everybody has heard speak, and both have been President before. They are in opposing political parties, and the polls were both done a few days ago...& Trump's lead has become a consistent theme for weeks, across nearly every poll.

Biden's no young stud Thoroughbread who is going to blow by anyone in the last furlong. This race is the tortoise & the slug.

So, my point's valid..your's is ancient history w/o compare....poor analogy.

That is my point.
Thank you.

How far apart in age are Biden and Trump?
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