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Old 02-25-2023, 06:28 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Did you see the video I saw???? He KNEW what he did was wrong and that's why he said he didn't want to go to jail. Give me a break here.

And I'm aware of CoChristie. That's her decision to allow that to happen to herself. It doesn't have to be that way

He appears to be clueless about consequences like a lot of youth these days because they've grown up in a world without as many consequences as my generation had when we went to school. See my article below, apparently he is a student with a behavioral issue. It does not say he has a learning issue too



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Of course it matters. If you go to any school for developmentally disabled people, they’ll tell you what a dangerous job it is. I saw a woman suddenly freak out and start throwing things and trying to hit people while working in a sheltered workshop when I was an OT student. We had lectures on how to get out of it if you’re being choked from the front, from the back, etc.

We have a long time poster here CoChristie, who has a huge autistic teen who regularly beats her up and they have special protocols in his school to deal with his violence. It is not something he can control, he’s low functioning.

It sounds like this kid shouldn’t have been in public school but Special Services district.

Apparently there is no special services schools for kids like this to go to because the schools were closed due to having to mainstream kids at one time.

I just googled to see if I could find anything more to read, apparently it is a big problem there according to the article below, the kids have no consequences such as being taken out of mainstream schools to go to a special needs or what we used to have in my day in the late 70's and 80's, a school for bad kids, IIRC it was in Marlboro, NJ. I knew a few kids who got relocated to go there.

I'm also seeing articles mentioning school attacks on kids are also out of hand due to how quick bullying on social media takes off, then it gets heated when they see the victim in school.

*Warning, the article is about an LGBTQ sign that has a flag on it that was seen in the video of the student beating the teachers aid. This is a recently elected school board member speaking who is Asian which is also mentioned. The article does talk about the teachers aid attack.



School Board’s Chong Demands ‘Safe Space’ Sign Be Removed Seconds After Decrying Violence at Matanzas

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Chong brought up the LGBTQ issue during board members’ comments at the end of a five-hour workshop on Tuesday. She first addressed the incident involving a special education student at Matanzas who, on Tuesday, allegedly attacked his long-time teacher’s aide after she had taken away a game he was playing with.

“We do need to start a conversation about an alternative school for children that are breaking the law,” Chong told the board. The district used to have an “alternative school” on the campus of Flagler Palm Coast High School, but closed it several years ago as “mainstreaming” students, or keeping students in mainstream schools, took precedence, along with alternatives that exist still now: off-site instruction for those who do break the law. The district has had to invoke that approach repeatedly for, say, students arrested for making threats at schools.

But the incident on Tuesday involved a special education student likely with behavioral issues, which are not unusual within certain groups of special education students. Numerous questions are unanswered regarding what led to the student’s violent outburst, and privacy rules prevent the district from so much as identifying him, let alone detailing his behavioral issues–even to board members.

Nevertheless, Chong used the occasion to call for a discussion on opening an alternative school. “This is becoming a constant complaint across the campuses and in our community. We just had that battering yesterday feeding a faculty unconscious which is horrible,” Chong said. “The students need to know there’s consequences for when they’re acting out. It’s it’s not okay.” The rest of the board immediately agreed to have a discussion about an alternative school.

Chong wasn’t done. The Flagler County Sheriff’s Office on Tuesday released a video of the arrest of the 17-year-pold student at Matanzas. As the student was being escorted out of one room, handcuffed and, at that point, submissive, a deputy with a body cam following, the camera for less than two seconds captured the LGBTQ sigh near the door–the sign Chong seized on in those two seconds.
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Old 02-25-2023, 06:36 AM
 
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Doesn't matter. He should be in jail
He has Autism.Should he be in a regular school.....no....but a child with Autism does not belong in jail.
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Old 02-25-2023, 06:39 AM
 
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Behind bars is where he needs to be. If he's disabled, then it is what it is, but did Mom and Dad TEACH him anything? Even so, he must pay for his actions. My niece just became a teacher. An 8-year old STOMPED on her foot. Little ****t.

Are parents parent-ing anymore?
What part of mentally ill do you do not understand.
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Old 02-25-2023, 06:46 AM
 
Location: NJ
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He has Autism.Should he be in a regular school.....no....but a child with Autism does not belong in jail.


Do you have a link that specifies he's autistic because all I saw mentioned by a member of the school board is he has behavior issues, it does not say any other "disability."
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Not a thing wrong with him except having a violent nature and no problem with attacking a woman a third of his size, with no sense of fear of the consequences whatsoever.

If you watched the arrest video, as fairly as the police officers were dealing with him, describing everything they were doing, making sure the handcuffs weren't pinching, taking his watch off and placing it in his pocket for him, he tells them he "has better things to do" than go to jail, and tells them to stop "man handling" him, which they were not doing in any way.

He knows the deal.
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:18 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The article states that he is a special needs student.
“Special needs” is the modern code language for “violent savage.”

Changing the words doesn’t change reality.
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:45 AM
 
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Do you have a link that specifies he's autistic because all I saw mentioned by a member of the school board is he has behavior issues, it does not say any other "disability."
No link. My SIL called me, she lives in the area, and knows my daughter is a para. She heard it from someone who knows first hand about it. I would believe this over anything in the media.
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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“Special needs” is the modern code language for “violent savage.”

Changing the words doesn’t change reality.
That or having a "mental episode", or "under the influence".

Always excuses and deflections intended to mean "not responsible/no accountability".
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Old 02-25-2023, 08:24 AM
 
Location: NJ
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No link. My SIL called me, she lives in the area, and knows my daughter is a para. She heard it from someone who knows first hand about it. I would believe this over anything in the media.

Thanks for explaining. Sometimes word of mouth is more reliable then what's in the press.

My friend was a para too until she lost her job a few years ago. The school did away with her position.
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Old 02-25-2023, 08:32 AM
 
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He has Autism.Should he be in a regular school.....no....but a child with Autism does not belong in jail.
Why not? He did something wrong. He needs to be in jail. Stop with the coddling already
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