Is Boston having the same problems with "crime" as many blue cities like SF, LA, NYC, Portland, Chicago, etc.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by msRB311

What is your point ? No one said Boston is undesirable but many people are here because they NEED to be. Then once they can leave they do.

The other poster, whom I was responding to, did indeed imply that many of these "blue cities" are undesirable, which is why people are leaving them.

[PureBoston]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

No, they aren't. This is another concoction of rightwing media. Most of these cities have positive population growth, and the ones that don't (like Portland) are really just seeing people move to the suburbs.

Desirability for these places is a fact supported by home prices. If they weren't desirable, people wouldn't pay those prices.

Yes of course, right wing media. Thank you for clearing things up.

[PureBoston]

Originally Posted by id77

You're reading a bit too literally into the metaphor, but if you want to see it that way it's also not wrong. If Texas were their first choice all along, many of the people moving there would have moved long ago ... before their hands were forced. Just ask the residents in Texas how they feel about all the Californians moving in and running up the price of real estate with the wealth they brought with them.

As Texas continues to turn into East California, the long-time Texans priced out will in turn move to a metaphorical hell so that they may reign again.

Texans might tell you that Californians are turning their heaven into hell. And why are "all the Calfornians" fleeing their own heaven?

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by PureBoston

Texans might tell you that Californians are turning their heaven into hell. And why are "all the Calfornians" fleeing their own heaven?

They aren't.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

The other poster, whom I was responding to, did indeed imply that many of these "blue cities" are undesirable, which is why people are leaving them.

they are undesirable to some people.

[PureBoston]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

They aren't.

You might want to take this up with the Public Policy Institute of Calfornia. And the United States Census Bureau. "California's population shrunk in 2023 for the third straight year." "Between January 2020 and January 2023, California lost 800,000 residents." Right wing media concoctions?

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by PureBoston

What country isn't divided groups. My opinion is that we've reached a point of fundamental differences great enough to support separate countries. If it wasn't completely impractical. And you're agreeing with a poster who detests red vs. blue.....yet blames right wing conservatives in the same breath. It's ingrained.

Just stating facts. Check into who first came up with the notion of "red" vs "blue" cities? Better yet, just tune into Fox News on a random day.

And oh, I specifically blamed right wing media, not right wing conservatives. You misquoted me on purpose.

[PureBoston]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Just stating facts. Check into who first came up with the notion of "red" vs "blue" cities? Better yet, just tune into Fox News on a random day.

And oh, I specifically blamed right wing media, not right wing conservatives. You misquoted me on purpose.

You, yourself do nothing but perpetuate the divide. Everything....everything.....is left or right to you, red or blue. You probably aren't even aware of it. You're arguably the greatest offender here. I'm a Democrat who believes Republicans have a lot of good ideas that we should listen to. Seriously, how are we doing without them?

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by PureBoston

You might want to take this up with the Public Policy Institute of Calfornia. And the United States Census Bureau. "California's population shrunk in 2023 for the third straight year." "Between January 2020 and January 2023, California lost 800,000 residents." Right wing media concoctions?

No, but that bastion of hard right-wing thought, CNN, is clearly spreading propaganda about highly desirable cities.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/30/b...res/index.html

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by PureBoston

You might want to take this up with the Public Policy Institute of Calfornia. And the United States Census Bureau. "California's population shrunk in 2023 for the third straight year." "Between January 2020 and January 2023, California lost 800,000 residents." Right wing media concoctions?

That's a reduction of less than 2%. I'd hardly call this "all the Californians" leaving. California has for many years seen low-income people leave while high-income people come. This isn't new, and it's not surprising that low-income people would leave at a higher rate as housing prices skyrocket.

Yes, rightwing media concoctions. They've been making these claims for years. The tales of an exodus from California just aren't true.