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Old 01-25-2024, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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It looks like not only 747 is affected, but also 737 and 757 models.
I guess it warrants a separate thread to include all problematic Boeing models.
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Old 01-25-2024, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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And most of those problems have nothing to do with Boeing, per se.

Wheels falling off, cracked windshields, and engine fires are either maintenance problems or manufacturing problems by someone other than Boeing.

The plug being blown out was a Boeing problem, and the 737 Max 8 software was a Boeing problem, but not those accountable to Delta, Atlas Air, or whatever company.
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Old 01-25-2024, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Not only assembly quality affects Boeing aircrafts, but also maintenance and inspections.
To passengers worrying about their safety during a flight doesn't matter who did wrong.

Recent:
Boeing 737-800 Pegasus airlines - skidded before splitting into three pieces of fuselage (2020)
Boeing 737-800 Sun Country Airlines - right main landing gear collapse during landing (2022)
Boeing 737-300 Large Air Tanker - crashed in Australia (2023)
Boeing 737-800 Qantas - uncontrolled engine failure (2023)
Boeing 737 MAX 9 United Airlines - experienced a fire in its #2 engine during departure (2023)
Boeing 747-400 Dreamlifte - lost a wheel after take off ((2023)

2024:
Boeing 737 MAX-9 operated by Alaska Airlines - fuselage ripped off
Boeing 737-800 operated by Japan's All Nippon Airways - cockpit window cracked
Boeing 737 from Switzerland - oxygen leak
Boeing 747-8 Atlas Air - fire
Boeing 757 operated by Delta Airlines lost a wheel during an attempted takeoff.
Boeing 737-200 cargo aircraft - two engines failure

The FAA recently told pilots to limit use of an anti-ice system on the Max because the inlets around the engines could overheat and break away.

Boeing’s two-aisle 787 has also been plagued by manufacturing problems and was recently inspected for a flaw in the tail section of the planes.
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Old 01-26-2024, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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To be fair, put up a similar thread for Airbus aircraft. Things happen with those too.
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Old 01-26-2024, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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ps: Boeing does not make engines
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Old 01-26-2024, 08:28 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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If you care more about safety than diversity, equity and inclusion, then you are a racist, homophobic, misogynist, xenophobic bigot.

(this is where their minds are nowadays)
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Old 01-27-2024, 11:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by elnina View Post
Not only assembly quality affects Boeing aircrafts, but also maintenance and inspections.
To passengers worrying about their safety during a flight doesn't matter who did wrong.

Recent:
Boeing 737-800 Pegasus airlines - skidded before splitting into three pieces of fuselage (2020)
Boeing 737-800 Sun Country Airlines - right main landing gear collapse during landing (2022)
Boeing 737-300 Large Air Tanker - crashed in Australia (2023)
Boeing 737-800 Qantas - uncontrolled engine failure (2023)
Boeing 737 MAX 9 United Airlines - experienced a fire in its #2 engine during departure (2023)
Boeing 747-400 Dreamlifte - lost a wheel after take off ((2023)

2024:
Boeing 737 MAX-9 operated by Alaska Airlines - fuselage ripped off
Boeing 737-800 operated by Japan's All Nippon Airways - cockpit window cracked
Boeing 737 from Switzerland - oxygen leak
Boeing 747-8 Atlas Air - fire
Boeing 757 operated by Delta Airlines lost a wheel during an attempted takeoff.
Boeing 737-200 cargo aircraft - two engines failure

The FAA recently told pilots to limit use of an anti-ice system on the Max because the inlets around the engines could overheat and break away.

Boeing’s two-aisle 787 has also been plagued by manufacturing problems and was recently inspected for a flaw in the tail section of the planes.

I think you really need to do some research. Here is a couple:

Pegasus airlines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasu...es_Flight_2193
It seems they ignored the other airlines doing go arounds due to the weather, and landed in heavy rain and a tailwind. That is pilot error, not Boeing.

The last Dreamlifter was made in 2010 (four were made), so after at least 13 years flying, you are blaming Boeing?

Alaska Airlines - fuselage ripped off? One would think the wording could be better.

Windshield cracked? Shucks, the airplane I was flying, if I had the windshield anti-ice (heat) on during climb due to weather, turning if off up at altitude, it would crack (no, I did not). Could I blame Beechcraft for that?

737-200 (a pretty old aircraft) https://www.freightwaves.com/news/pi...ash-off-hawaii
Seems to me to be pilot error.

Airbus has a lot of issues also. Look at the A380 when brand new, uncontrolled engine failure that almost brought it down. Icing over the ocean (a known issue), causing it to crash with all aboard.
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Old 01-27-2024, 02:05 PM
 
Location: South of Cakalaki
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You’re becoming overwrought by this whole thing. And completely overblowing the incidents.

The fuselage ripped off? Huh? A door plug came off.

Plane loses control in bad weather? Boeings fault how exactly?
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Old 01-27-2024, 02:26 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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You’re becoming overwrought by this whole thing. And completely overblowing the incidents.

The fuselage ripped off? Huh? A door plug came off.

Plane loses control in bad weather? Boeings fault how exactly?
engine issue? (part coming loose on Atlas 747)
The Atlas Boeing 747-8 is eight years old, according to the FAA and is powered by four General Electric (GE.N), opens new tab GEnx engines.
“On the interior of that engine there are a lot of rotating parts including blades," Cox said. "An engine is designed to try and contain a blade separation and they do testing and certification for it. But it does happen that you get an uncontained failure. When you do, it does elevate the investigative significance of it."
Boeing mania.

I'm still flying, (today...737, and tomorrow, 737) tho no longer insured
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Old 01-27-2024, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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If you Google Boeing Starliner failures, you'll get more hits than you will want to look through, I don't have the energy to compile them. Boeing has been around for more than 100 years, and people insist that's why they're obviously the best. And yet, they've been completed outclassed by the SpaceX team - a startup company. It's difficult to overstate just how poorly Boeing has performed relative to SpaceX, so I think this whole theory that age somehow proves greatness is in the dumpster. They may have done great things years ago, but those people are gone.
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