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Old 01-08-2024, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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I never heard of a potential means of egress being blocked off. Sure, the cost of the exit door would be slightly more expensive than a plug, but it would be a shame if passengers got trapped inside during to a fire when there was a potential exit nearby.
Apparently, Boeing has their priorities.
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Old 01-08-2024, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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"Four days after a section of the fuselage suddenly detached as an Alaska Airlines plane was taking off, United Airlines reported Monday its inspectors discovered several 'instances that appear to relate to installation issues in the door plug', including bolts needing additional tightening... United Airlines said it has been inspecting its fleet of Boeing 737 Max 9 planes to make sure they are safe to fly "

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...boe-rcna132879
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Old 01-08-2024, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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“Since we began preliminary inspections on Saturday, we have found instances that appear to relate to installation issues in the door plug — for example, bolts that needed additional tightening,” United said in a statement. “These findings will be remedied by our Tech Ops team to safely return the aircraft to service.”

In other words - sloppy quality of work
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Old 01-08-2024, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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There was another thing that needs to be fixed:
The voice data recorder of that plane whose fake door fell off might not have been so much "recorded over" as it was "empty the entire time"

Apparently no data was available on the cockpit voice recorder because it was not retrieved within two hours - when recording restarts, erasing previous data.

The U.S. requires cockpit voice recorders to log two hours of data versus 25 hours in Europe for planes made after 2021.
The industry has been wrestling with the length of cockpit recordings since the disappearance of a Malaysian jet in 2014.

"There was a lot going on, on the flight deck and on the plane. It's a very chaotic event. The circuit breaker for the CVR (cockpit voice recorder) was not pulled. The maintenance team went out to get it, but it was right at about the two-hour mark. The plane's flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder were sent to NTSB labs on Sunday to be read but no voice data was available."
Communication was a serious issue," Homendy said. "The flight attendants reported that it was difficult to get information from the flight deck, and the flight deck was having trouble also communicating."

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...te-2024-01-08/
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Old 01-08-2024, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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“Since we began preliminary inspections on Saturday, we have found instances that appear to relate to installation issues in the door plug — for example, bolts that needed additional tightening,” United said in a statement. “These findings will be remedied by our Tech Ops team to safely return the aircraft to service.”

In other words - sloppy quality of work
Yes, and mind you - it sounds like there isn't a lot of inspection going on at Boeing - because multiple planes have gone out without those plug bolts being properly torqued, and Boeing didn't catch anything. This is a mid-air catastrophe and field inspection by customers that's turning up a recurring problem in assembly. "The horse was already out of the barn".
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Old 01-08-2024, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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A passenger phone was found on the ground - working and in pristine condition!

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/passen...y?id=106186623
If Boeing built their planes like Apple (based on the photo in the link) built that phone this thread would not exist.
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Old 01-08-2024, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Bob had an interesting day.
He did, but probably not as exciting a day as the person who found the door plug in their back yard. It could have caused some damage had it hit the house!
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Old 01-08-2024, 07:56 PM
 
Location: South of Cakalaki
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Interesting that Alaska had 3 documented instances of that same aircraft having pressurization warnings.
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Old 01-08-2024, 08:25 PM
 
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He did, but probably not as exciting a day as the person who found the door plug in their back yard. It could have caused some damage had it hit the house!
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Door plug found in Bob's backyard.


Although it makes you wonder... why did it take so long to find it, then? Wouldn't you kind of notice right away that you have a huge chunk of airplane that had landed violently in your back yard?

(Also, time to update SeatGuru! "This seat is right next to the door plug...")
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Old 01-08-2024, 08:34 PM
 
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He did, but probably not as exciting a day as the person who found the door plug in their back yard. It could have caused some damage had it hit the house!
But - that was Bob!
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