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If you buy a Toyota truck, make sure to run and have the frame coated . They rust by the minute.
I’ve been looking at 100 series land cruisers and the amount of rust on them would make a scientist go crazy.
Unless you are in southern states using it to get to a steak house on sunny days. Even then, don’t risk it.
If you live in an area that uses road salt in winter, undercoat ANY vehicle.
100 series shouldn’t be unusually bad. I haven’t noticed that problem here in JNU AK.
Older Tundras and Tacomas definitely have rapid frame rust issues. Come to think of it, FJ Cruisers and 4Runners aren’t great either. Better than the first two mentioned.
That's from over a year ago and they've released more updates to it where it's even better at off-roading.
"Rivian R1S Is the First Production EV to Conquer Rubicon Off-Road Trail". One of the really cool things about the R1S is that with the air suspension, you can vary the ground clearance from 8-15 inches, so it can perform well both on and off road.
Lexus LX/Land Cruiser has always done this combo better than anything else, especially if reliability is a factor. I've owned two LXs, one 470 and one 570, and they are the best-built vehicles on the road, IMO.
If you buy a Toyota truck, make sure to run and have the frame coated . They rust by the minute.
I’ve been looking at 100 series land cruisers and the amount of rust on them would make a scientist go crazy.
Unless you are in southern states using it to get to a steak house on sunny days. Even then, don’t risk it.
This applied to a certain year range of Tacomas, and it was due to a poor design not allowing water to escape. I've owned one 100 and one 200 series Cruiser (LX 470 and 570), and they are no rustier than any other vehicle. The old saying of "The only way to kill a Land Cruiser is rust" comes from the fact that nothing else kills Land Cruisers, not that they are especially prone to rust.
.. The old saying of "The only way to kill a Land Cruiser is rust" comes from the fact that nothing else kills Land Cruisers, not that they are especially prone to rust.
The old ones certainly were. FJ40 and FJ55 were absolutely terrible for body rust. Frame rust was not an issue.
Of these three the only one I'd look twice at is the GX 550 (and actually - we are seriously considering one for my wife's next car).
Land Rover reliability has no doubt improved but I'd still be reluctant to own a Defender past 100k miles. G550 is way too flashy, and the lack of a third row in such a big and heavy vehicle is silly. Our GLC300 hasn't been a basket case but has had more issues than a babied low-mileage vehicle should have.
I could see buying the GX 550, driving it for 8-10 years, and handing down to one of our kids for them to drive for another 10 years once they get their license. The high school parking lot near us is filled with 15+ year old Land Cruiser/GX/LX SUVs that were handed down from mom to kid to kid. A similarly old Land Rover product is a rare sight...I can't remember the last time I saw a late-90s Range Rover moving under its own power.
Yes, and...some folks use them for real off road applications. GX more than the LR more than the Mercedes.
The GX especially is well known and respected among off road folks.
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