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Australia's from it's very beginning as a developed nation has relied on immigrants and continues to do so until this day. This will not change anytime soon. Australia will one day have 50+ Million people perhaps even before the end of this century
The populate or perish theme has long passed. We simply do not need the huge numbers entering over recent years. Smaller populated countries will be the ones that maintain a higher living standard.
Australia is setting itself up for a massive failure.
The populate or perish theme has long passed. We simply do not need the huge numbers entering over recent years. Smaller populated countries will be the ones that maintain a higher living standard.
Australia is setting itself up for a massive failure.
When in Australia's history has it's immigration system been an issue? This country is built by Immigrants and they are essential. Each state has severe skills shortages. In order for them to grow this needs to be met. I assure you Australia's prosperity has always been based on investing in growing it's wealth. Also ahy do you think so Many Kiwis move here to live? Economic diversity and greater opportunity. Australia is the 6th largest nation of Earth with some of the most valuable resources under the ground. It's destined to be a large nation because it needs to be strong enough to hold on to such a vast land with extreme wealth. The population or perish Scheme will continue until Australia can defend itself against anyone
The populate or perish theme has long passed. We simply do not need the huge numbers entering over recent years. Smaller populated countries will be the ones that maintain a higher living standard.
Australia is setting itself up for a massive failure.
I would hardly describe 50 million as some kind of grand number, especially given the country’s colossal size. We’re already over halfway there.
I would hardly describe 50 million as some kind of grand number, especially given the country’s colossal size. We’re already over halfway there.
It's something I don't understand either. This nation with it resources and vast amounts of land can support many times what it does currently and it eventually will.
It's something I don't understand either. This nation with it resources and vast amounts of land can support many times what it does currently and it eventually will.
Quite simple. Unwanted/needed population while creates a n increase in GDP obviously, adds to falling standards of living as we are experiencing in this country over recent years.
We simply do not have the infrastructure in place to cater for such huge population growth. Most immigrants go to the two principle population centres. They compete for scarce housing with locals.
Australia is already becoming simply unaffordable for ever more people. The nation is limited as to how many people it can take. The populate or perish slogan, as already expressed, is something out of the forties or fifties .
It's something I don't understand either. This nation with it resources and vast amounts of land can support many times what it does currently and it eventually will.
Australia is only a bit smaller than the continental US, which already has well over 10 times the population. When it comes to land, there certainly is plenty of room to grow.
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Size has nothing to do with it. It is the ability due to environmental reasons as well as infrastructure in place that determines numbers.
Honestly, would Sydney have an enhanced standard of living with a doubling of the population?
It ultimately boils down to the “Populate or Perish” mantra. Without immigration, countries like Australia, Canada and the US, will start losing people as the fertility rate is below replacement level. Of course, the growth needs to be gradual as the country lacks the infrastructure to support a sudden massive increase.
Australia is only a bit smaller than the continental US, which already has well over 10 times the population. When it comes to land, there certainly is plenty of room to grow.
It ultimately boils down to the “Populate or Perish” mantra. Without immigration, countries like Australia, Canada and the US, will start losing people as the fertility rate is below replacement level. Of course, the growth needs to be gradual as the country lacks the infrastructure to support a sudden massive increase.
No one is referring to the stopping of immigration. Just a return to more traditional levels that serve the people actually living here.
Australia does not have the population reduction levels as experienced by certain countries in Europe and Asia.
With increased migration we are at very high developing world levels of growth. While suiting certain vested interests it does not bid well for most people.
Quite simple. Unwanted/needed population while creates a n increase in GDP obviously, adds to falling standards of living as we are experiencing in this country over recent years.
We simply do not have the infrastructure in place to cater for such huge population growth. Most immigrants go to the two principle population centres. They compete for scarce housing with locals.
Australia is already becoming simply unaffordable for ever more people. The nation is limited as to how many people it can take. The populate or perish slogan, as already expressed, is something out of the forties or fifties .
In what way has our living standards fallen? Also the population certainly isn't unwanted or unneeded as just look at the severe labor shortages. Getting anything done today in Australia takes five times as long due to staff shortages everywhere.
As for infrastructure, that remains to be seen. The cities are growing pretty fast and I don't see infrastructure growth slowing down at all. As for scarce housing. I agree with you however the reality is the more tradies we bring in the faster we can build housing. Australian tradies are the highest paid in the world because there is such a shortage. Some in the industry might think that's OK but in what developed country is it normal to take 2-3 years to build a home and Is this even sustainable? Businesses are collapsing because the labour shortages have pushed out jobs so far they can't sustain it. Your simply living in another world if you think Skilled migrants aren't needed. They have NEVER been more needed
No one is referring to the stopping of immigration. Just a return to more traditional levels that serve the people actually living here.
Australia does not have the population reduction levels as experienced by certain countries in Europe and Asia.
With increased migration we are at very high developing world levels of growth. While suiting certain vested interests it does not bid well for most people.
When was immigration levels in Australia ever low?
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