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We're not supposed to look a gift horse in the mouth.
It still BS that NYC does not allow online ordering for OBCs. You can only order by regular mail. That means 12-16 week processing, assuming they don't claim it can't be found. NYS allows online ordering, but NYC is still stuck in the 19th century?
The form must also be notarized. I know plenty of notaries - banks I deal with, neighbors, etc. I don't like the idea of sharing this information with any of those people.
NYC is making this more difficult than it needs to be.
Read my reply over yours. They will be doing online orders once they get set up. It's all in my reply.
Of course they want your signature notarized if ordering by mail because anyone can say they're the adoptee. This is to protect the adoptee
Read my reply over yours. They will be doing online orders once they get set up. It's all in my reply.
Understood. I still think there is no excuse for not having it set up already. NYS had no problem getting online. NYC is just dragging their heels.
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Of course they want your signature notarized if ordering by mail because anyone can say they're the adoptee. This is to protect the adoptee
I understand why a notary is used (even though that can be fooled). Of course, it is arguably easier to claim you are someone else when doing something online . Is there something in the online request that is at least as secure as a notary (third party verification of identity)? Regardless, regular mail is an additional and unnecessary inconvenience.
It’s good that we finally have this. Just disappointed that they have to make it more difficult than it needs to be. That’s assuming they don’t take the easy way out and claim they can’t find your records. (Been there, done that, and know others it has happened to.)
On the plus side, at $15 it is less expensive than NYS.
Who is eligible to get a copy of a pre-adoption birth certificate?
An adoptee who is 18 years of age or older
Direct Line Descendants - A Direct Line Descendant is a child, grandchild, or great grandchild, etc. of the adoptee
A lawful representative of the adopted person
A lawful representative of a deceased adopted person’s Direct Line Descendant
What identification needs to be submitted by the applicant?
Application must be submitted with copies of either A or B:
A One of the following forms of valid photo-ID:
Driver's license
State-issued, nondriver photo-ID card
Passport
U.S. Military-issued, photo-ID
OR
B Two of the following showing the applicant's name and address:
Utility or telephone bill
Letter from a government agency dated within the last six months
Please submit a copy of your U.S. passport in addition to the above ID if you are applying from a foreign country that requires a passport for travel.
Understood. I still think there is no excuse for not having it set up already. NYS had no problem getting online. NYC is just dragging their heels.
I understand why a notary is used (even though that can be fooled). Of course, it is arguably easier to claim you are someone else when doing something online . Is there something in the online request that is at least as secure as a notary (third party verification of identity)? Regardless, regular mail is an additional and unnecessary inconvenience.
It’s good that we finally have this. Just disappointed that they have to make it more difficult than it needs to be. That’s assuming they don’t take the easy way out and claim they can’t find your records. (Been there, done that, and know others it has happened to.)
On the plus side, at $15 it is less expensive than NYS.
I have ordered death certificates through VitalChek (the NYS online system) and found it neither easy nor straightforward. I prefer the low-tech option and have already mailed my OBC request in to NYC (despite my earlier post saying I would wait). It was easy for me.
Having the NYC form notarized wasn't the biggest thing - just (IMO) an unnecessary inconvenience. Note that the NYS form is virtually identical to the NYC form, but no notary is required on the mailed-in application. If the online process is truly online, no notary is needed there either.
My past experience with NYC has jaded me. I'm not sure if NYC wants the notary to make it more difficult, or if they are just stuck in the 19th century. I suspect both to be the case.
I mailed my form today. The race is on to see which comes first... my OBC or my first social security check.
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Roselvr again."
It will be four weeks for me on Friday, and my check hasn't been deposited either. Government agencies don't usually start the clock at least until the info is entered/check is cashed. That means my 12-16 week wait hasn't started yet. This is one of those things where you need to sit back, relax, and think long term (months). It took Gov. Fredo a few months just to sign the bill.
Today marks three months since I applied to NYC, check still not cashed. Not surprised since there's probably nobody at work to process these requests. Non-essential.
Today marks three months since I applied to NYC, check still not cashed. Not surprised since there's probably nobody at work to process these requests. Non-essential.
That sucks. I can't imagine how long you and others will have to wait due to this virus
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I'm not sure if NYC wants the notary to make it more difficult, or if they are just stuck in the 19th century. I suspect both to be the case.
