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Old 12-27-2022, 05:46 PM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Meanwhile, coverage of this, the cashmere-clad Lord Mayor's latest press conference pronouncement, was preceded, on Channel 16, by studly musclebull news anchor, Scott Simmons, talking to a man who's been reporting a busted 8-inch water pipe, FOR YEARS (the City has yet to send anyone out). Most brooks and creeks in Mississippi, do not get such a flow of water. Goshen Springs and Bay Springs probably got named after smaller upwellings than the one filmed by Channel 16's news crew.

Although the saviors sent by the state, and those sent from out in Yankeeland, have doubled the City's water plant output, there are so many leaks, water pressure has been down to nearly-zero.

But anyway, BabyChok, and the newest person-with-good-sense sent down from Yankeeland, by ever-benevolent Uncle Sam, to fix the water problem for the poor, helpless people of Jackson, say that the leaks are in places where they can't be seen ("They could be hiding in the woods.").

Oh, really? Funny they say that, since the gushing brook Scott Simmons just showed on TV, looked like it was at the edge of a city street. (then again, in a city filled with abandoned lots, "Out in the woods", and "At the edge of a city street", are, at this point, virtually indistinguishable) Recent administrations have run-off so many people, "Out in the woods", and "Right in the middle of town", are basically the same thing.

I've been watching the news, remote, with a friend in Mississippi. The story isn't online, yet, so I can't link to it. We're turning onto the road leading to the Wyoming house, and so I'm out of time. Please link to the story (or similar), if you run across it. Or maybe I will, later...

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Old 12-29-2022, 07:25 PM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Default I call it 'THE PITIFUL GAME': acting pitiful, for fun and profit

Here's the best coverage I could find, so far: https://www.wlbt.com/2022/12/27/crew...ater-pressure/ Ted Henfin is the Person-with-good-sense the government has sent down to fix things (things deliberately allowed to fall-apart, in the hopes that exactly what did happen, would happen: do-gooders swooping-in from the outside world, with truckloads of money).

I love that ceiling color above Henifin! Such a blue-grey is ideal, as a backdrop for someone so pale and pink. And kudos to him, for using a lighter color for the walls, from the same page of the fandeck! So harmonious!

And that Fifties Retro fabric at the window, in a Fifties Retro color triad! He seems not to know anyone who does camming for a living, though. As someone who's had a personal trainer camming (without permission) from one of my bathrooms, I know that you need the cam higher in the room - and a big screen for checking-yourself-out. If the room's got a Smart TV, you can just plug your gismos into the TV, and cam-away!

"Gloria! So you DID buy at _________! "
"How do you know?"
"The bookmatch marble. Only one building has that color. And the Franz von Stuck on the wall (which I've gotta say... is as gloomy as that marble. But the flesh tones in the painting, and the golden skin on the live guy, really key off the veins in the marble. Such an eye... And speaking of VEINS, that guy really... ) Who else but YOU... or your Decorator, anyway, would know that that painting and that marble had been yearning for each other, across time and space? I know who you've been schmoozing on Fifth Avenue. You bought it right off her wall, and avoided a broker? So, you know the story about how her parents got it out of Austria, when they escaped? Aside from the emeralds, is there much left of her estate? They didn't make Reserve at Christie's. So, are they coming back? Is that how it works? Can you introduce...."
"Live GUY? What are you talking about?"
"On OnlyFans..."
"Whaaaaaaa....."
"Your Trainer.... He was camming from one of your bathrooms."
"Oyyyyyyyyy,..."
"Don't worry, I saved it off Pornhub, before New York Times blew the whistle and ruined everything, and they took-down all the unauthorized leaked stuff like those Australian lifeguards. I'll show you, when you come out to the beach. Gloria? ..... Gloria? ....... Have you lost consciousness? ..... Gloria?"

Mr. Henifin, at the very least, needs to put his laptop up on a box or something, while he's camming, because persons of a certain age look jowly, peering DOWN at a camera.

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Old 12-31-2022, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Southern MN
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I'm sitting in shock, I tell ya.
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:28 PM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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I'm sitting in shock, I tell ya.
You must've found those Australian lifeguards!

Or is it the situation in Jackson that's shocking? Is it not amazing, that while water gushes in geysers and rivers, from every possible pipe in the city... with residents calling to REPORT all those geysers and gushers and rivers - all day, every day - for YEARS (and mostly getting ignored by the City) - The Right Honourable Lord Mayor BabyChok expects us to believe that "The Smoking Gun" must be "hiding in the woods". That's the problem with 'Single Cause Theories', I guess. One ignores a host of little things (and not-so-little things), in one's quest for that one single really-really-big thing.

You can't play the hero, fixing little things.

Not a week goes by, that one of the TV stations doesn't film somebody showing a big-giant water leak, or a busted fire hydrant, in front of their home, which they've been reporting to the city... for months... for YEARS, generally, to no avail. Last year, at the very same moment when there was another "water crisis", and Councilman Kenneth Stokes was bewailing the lack of water for flushing "raw boo boo", water from broken pipes, was cascading down the black glass facades of the enormous 'Landmark Center'. Water was pouring off the balconies rimming the multi-storey atrium. Veritable rapids had formed in the stairwells. One recalled scenes from the last moments of the Titanic. Alarms were screeching. Emergency lights were flashing. This went on, FOR DAYS - on Downtown's most important street - less than two blocks from the Governor's Mansion. ...lights flashing ...alarms screaming. Nobody did one damn thing about it.

Meanwhile, a few blocks away, Jackson residents lacked water for flushing their commodes. And tanker trucks were being sent-in, while volunteers across America were buying bottled water for those poor, thirsting people of Jackson.

How is it possible, to NOT make the connection between, "Our city has no water pressure", and "There is an enormous water leak, in one of our city's most enormous buildings". I'm sure that Landmark Center was not the only problem, that week. But it sure would have been an obvious place to begin.

But here's the good news! Just as in last winter's water crisis, and this summer's/autumn's water crisis, someone has FINALLY - after a week of impoverished Jacksonians lining-up in their new Infiniti QX80s, getting free water - realized that the homebound elderly were not getting any of the free bottled water being given-out.

One can forgive the able-bodied young Jacksonians, though. It's hard work, lining-up, for hours and hours, burning $20.00 worth of gas, waiting for $5.00 worth of free water. It was hard to resist just going to a nearby grocery store, where whole pallets of bottled water sat awaiting buyers. So, it was easy to forget one's auntee without legs, and one's bedridden grandmother. There was FREE WATER!

But just as last year, and two months ago, various volunteer agencies have (finally) realized that somebody needs to take water to the homes of the handicapped.
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Old 01-01-2023, 11:11 AM
 
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This was published on Dec. 27: “Whatever we’re searching for seems to be draining into a body of water or into the storm sewer system or someplace where no one is seeing it,” he said. “I think it might just be a few bigger [breaks] that are causing that problem, and we just haven’t found them.”

Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba reiterated Henifin’s point at a Tuesday press conference. “Some can be hiding in the woods, they may be hiding in places where there is water already and difficult to identify,” he said. “We’re calling on residents to call in if you see a leak.”


Oh my gosh! Here's Alice from Wonderland and she has a question about this leak that no one is seeing and no one can find, not even the EPA and Mayor Lumumba's great mind.

"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to walk from here to find the leaks?"

"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.

"I don't much care where," said Alice.

"Then it doesn't matter which way you walk," said the Cat.

"—so long as I get somewhere," Alice added as an explanation.

"Oh you're sure to do that," said the Cat, "if you only walk long enough!"

Alice tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?"

"In that direction," said the Cat, waving its right paw round, "lives a Hatter; and in that direction," waving the other paw, "Lives a March hare. Visit either you like; they're both mad."

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.

"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat; "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."

"How do you know I'm mad?" asked Alice.

"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."

Lewis Carroll
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Old 01-01-2023, 09:16 PM
 
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Hee, hee. DH, inspector for the city, once watched two important guys drive down from the Twin Cities to investigate a report of people dumping unwanted pet goldfish in water holding areas. They brought an immense amount of scientific gadgets with them, donned fancy wading gear and sloshed about with their expensive equipment for an embarrassing amount of time while he stifled a chuckle. Said it looked like a Laurel and Hardy short.

Finally, empty handed, they got out and prepared to leave. Their parting words were, "Well, we didn't find any but we know they're in there."

I think they are still in there. So far, so good. But it's a crying shame about your thirsty old ladies.
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Old 01-03-2023, 02:29 PM
 
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Henifin said recovery efforts would have been aided had Jackson had a way to track leaks, as well as updated information on where turnoff valves are located throughout the distribution system.

“That’s something I’ll be putting in as the ITPM,” he said. “Unfortunately, we’re working with what we’ve got, and a lot of it is paper-based at this point.”



I'm not shocked in the least that things either: A) aren't documented or B) are documented purely on paper - based on the ongoing disaster of Jackson's water system. Lumumba and his incompetent staff are lucky that the feds are bailing them out on this one.
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Old 01-05-2023, 06:39 PM
 
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Henifin said recovery efforts would have been aided had Jackson had a way to track leaks, as well as updated information on where turnoff valves are located throughout the distribution system.

“That’s something I’ll be putting in as the ITPM,” he said. “Unfortunately, we’re working with what we’ve got, and a lot of it is paper-based at this point.”


I'm not shocked in the least that things either: A) aren't documented or B) are documented purely on paper - based on the ongoing disaster of Jackson's water system. Lumumba and his incompetent staff are lucky that the feds are bailing them out on this one.
Ah, YES! ...if, by "documented purely on paper", you mean "exist purely as a matter of false invoicing", for work never actually done".

But cheer up! Because I just heard that expertly playing 'The Pitiful Game', has netted The City of Jackson EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.

That should mean at least 400 million to waste and steal. This is wonderful news for retailers in Paris and Atlanta, where Jackson's august personages prefer to shop. Hermès and Chanel (the flagship stores in Paris, of course) should do particularly well.

The incompetence and work ethic of local labor, should make another 300 million disappear. Still, a hundred million MIGHT get applied to Jackson's water infrastructure...... MIGHT.... Or, it could simply go to service debt, since some of the money is coming from "investors".

My Delta friend, 'Dowager Soybean Empress', grew up in organized crime. Most of her enculturation involved learning to read facial expressions, to determine when people are lying. And then she got a doctorate in Psychology. She's been watching that Henifin guy who was sent down to fix things. Her personal interpretation of what's going on, offers a certain perspective:

"His contempt for BabyChok, is readable at a glance, as is his fear. He's doing his best to hide this, of course. I'm seeing that not only does he wish he hadn't been sent down there, but also is beginning to realize that this is the end of his career. Yesterday, he was out at the water plant, addressing the LATEST failure - the new one - the New Year's water crisis following the Christmas water crisis - wearing bluejeans and a plaid shirt, acting folksy, acting "regular workin' Joe", but it's not going to do him one bit of good. He's The Fall Guy. He's the Patsy. He's the Scapegoat. He's the Designated Victim. He's realizing all of that. Acting folksy won't get him out of this one. Today, at the news event with BabyChok, Henifin was looking like a trapped animal.

"And when Henifin talks, BabyChok's facial expressions tell me something is up - something's up, about like what I just said. The Mayor's eyes are darting-about, worse than Minnie Castevet's when she's about to ask Rosemary and Guy over for a steak dinner (https://www.google.com/search?client...id:QlSgzo3vG6Y). Think about it. Eight hundred million - in Mississippi, where that's big money. With graft potential on that scale, you can bring in pros - strategists - there's money for mop-up/damage control/media blackout - whatever ya need.... The Mayor has Atlanta connections, and even bigger connections, now that he was up hobnobbing at Harvard. Henefin has got to be realizing that his very LIFE could be in danger, if he doesn't go along with.... with.... well.... that's to be determined. What do you THINK will be determined? The Most Corrupt City, in The Most Corrupt State - suddenly with 800 million to play with? It's gotta suck, to be him. I'm sure he knows how to be a "team player". But this is a whole new game."




And would somebody please take up a collection, to hire a speech therapist, so that Gracyn can learn to pronounce 'Gordon'?
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Old 01-05-2023, 07:33 PM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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This was published on Dec. 27: “Whatever we’re searching for seems to be draining into a body of water or into the storm sewer system or someplace where no one is seeing it,” he said. “I think it might just be a few bigger [breaks] that are causing that problem, and we just haven’t found them.”

Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba reiterated Henifin’s point at a Tuesday press conference. “Some can be hiding in the woods, they may be hiding in places where there is water already and difficult to identify,” he said. “We’re calling on residents to call in if you see a leak.”


Oh my gosh! Here's Alice from Wonderland and she has a question about this leak that no one is seeing and no one can find, not even the EPA and Mayor Lumumba's great mind.

"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to walk from here to find the leaks?"

"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.

"I don't much care where," said Alice.

"Then it doesn't matter which way you walk," said the Cat.

"—so long as I get somewhere," Alice added as an explanation.

"Oh you're sure to do that," said the Cat, "if you only walk long enough!"

Alice tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?"

"In that direction," said the Cat, waving its right paw round, "lives a Hatter; and in that direction," waving the other paw, "Lives a March hare. Visit either you like; they're both mad."

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.

"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat; "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."

"How do you know I'm mad?" asked Alice.

"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."

Lewis Carroll

WONDERFUL, dear Seadory! Alice will get to the bottom of this, and find the leaks. If anyone can, she can. After that, one will need only to go ask Alice.

And, since Alice from Wonderland has (perhaps inadvertently) chosen to go among mad people, I think that she needs a place to live. Right down the hill from Lord Mayor BabyChok's Mauve McMansion, there are two which will do, as personal wonderlands for Alice. Neither, unfortunately, has remained untouched by the Grey Plague, which has swept the nation, and crept into the highest society mansions and the lowest OnlyFans Porncammers' rented rooms. Grey paint has crept (the infection probably spread by realtors) into both these houses. But that can't be helped. Grey is in the air, like a miasma. The first, designed by the same Architect who did the Mayor's house (then fled to Palm Beach - because - well... who wouldn't flee Jackson, if they could?), is very proper and traditional, with the best of everything. I wonder what Alice would say, about the abundance of spaces clearly designed for womankind, and of those clearly intended for menfolk: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2.../3060026_zpid/

I think that Alice would find this one comfortable, if puzzling: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1.../3056357_zpid/ Whoever designed the home, clearly reads Maison Côté Sud. And whoever did the decorating, has toured two Southampton homes with which I'm very familiar: 80 Meadowmere Lane, and Jule Pond. I see touches from both - in addition to much pop decor of the sort one sees, these days, around New York.

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Hee, hee. DH, inspector for the city, once watched two important guys drive down from the Twin Cities to investigate a report of people dumping unwanted pet goldfish in water holding areas. They brought an immense amount of scientific gadgets with them, donned fancy wading gear and sloshed about with their expensive equipment for an embarrassing amount of time while he stifled a chuckle. Said it looked like a Laurel and Hardy short.

Finally, empty handed, they got out and prepared to leave. Their parting words were, "Well, we didn't find any but we know they're in there."

I think they are still in there. So far, so good. But it's a crying shame about your thirsty old ladies.
Thus, Minnesota is safe from The Goldfish Menace! What a grand story, Lodestar! Did they imagine that the goldfish would swim TOWARD strange creatures sloshing-around?

However, as for "your thirsty old ladies", I cannot call them "mine" - not anymore. We fled Mississippi, almost fifteen years ago. There's a NEW water crisis, though, which apparently became apparent, AFTER we last communicated. But EVERY time there's a water crisis, they always forget about those without transportation.... until someone finally remembers.

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Old 03-24-2023, 11:43 AM
 
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Default There was, indeed a big one, "hiding in the woods"

Mayor BabyChok was right! There WAS a leak hiding in the woods.
Jackson Jambalaya: Unbelievable. Well, Maybe Not.

PapaChok would be so proud, to know his son was right about something!

Considering it's near that infamous and inexplicably closed bridge, where Purple Creek meets Colonial Circle (Kingfish's article shows an excellent aerial shot), I could have posted it as an update for THIS thread:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/jack...al-circle.html

Or, since it has to do with Jackson's water situation, which has been commented-on by Mayor BabyChok's arch nemesis, Kenny Stokes, I could have posted the update HERE: https://www.city-data.com/forum/jack...cant-come.html

In any event, it's always nice when Jackson makes The New York Times. (it's even better, though, when Jackson makes London's The Daily Mail) I will quote from that NYT article, to which Kingfish linked: "It is enough water to serve the daily needs of 50,000 people, or a third of the city residents who rely on the beleaguered water utility....But newly appointed water officials say the city discovered the broken mainline pipe in 2016 and left it to gush, even as the water gouged out a swimming pool-size crater in the earth and city residents were forced to endure one drinking water crisis after another...."

Read Kingfish's article slowly and carefully - maybe 2 or 3 times. It offers a lot of insight into Jackson. And be sure to read the comments - like this one: http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/202...65335374199192 ....and this one: http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/202...04138451234175 "ten billion, nine hundred fifty million gallons"

In this comment, someone estimates an EIGHTY FIVE MILLION DOLLAR LOSS, over 6 years: http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/202...21037165399196

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