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[rrah]

For those with all the "if we ban guns....blah, blah, blah" I didn't say ban guns. I absolutely think automatic rifles do not need to be in the hands of regular citizens. We've had an assault weapons ban before. People managed just fine. Unfortunately Bush let it expire.

I'm beyond sick of the weekly/daily mass shootings that occur in this country uniquely. For all the excuses: mental health, no religion, bad families, etc. I say you must have a VERY poor opinion of the U.S. and believe those same issues don't exist in other countries. I don't think we are unique in having people with mental health issues, etc. We are unique in allowing assault weapons in the hands of anyone over 18.

[Wartrace]

Originally Posted by hapaleeretired

It was reported this morning that the hero of the moment was in violation of Simon Properties rules which disallows all firearms on mall property. I'm sure we will be hearing a LOT about this incident from pro-gun advocates. Thank God that young man ignored the "rules"!

I don't know why the killer ignored the "rules" too. Maybe it's time we wake up and realize that someone intending to commit murder isn't worried about rules or laws?

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by hapaleeretired

It was reported this morning that the hero of the moment was in violation of Simon Properties rules which disallows all firearms on mall property. I'm sure we will be hearing a LOT about this incident from pro-gun advocates. Thank God that young man ignored the "rules"!

Every gang banger ignores the rules we may as well too. This guy should get a medal.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by rrah

For those with all the "if we ban guns....blah, blah, blah" I didn't say ban guns. I absolutely think automatic rifles do not need to be in the hands of regular citizens. We've had an assault weapons ban before. People managed just fine. Unfortunately Bush let it expire.

I'm beyond sick of the weekly/daily mass shootings that occur in this country uniquely. For all the excuses: mental health, no religion, bad families, etc. I say you must have a VERY poor opinion of the U.S. and believe those same issues don't exist in other countries. I don't think we are unique in having people with mental health issues, etc. We are unique in allowing assault weapons in the hands of anyone over 18.

Please read

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...eapon-ban.html

There was no actual ban.

[sheerbliss]

Originally Posted by rrah

For those with all the "if we ban guns....blah, blah, blah" I didn't say ban guns. I absolutely think automatic rifles do not need to be in the hands of regular citizens. We've had an assault weapons ban before. People managed just fine. Unfortunately Bush let it expire.

I'm beyond sick of the weekly/daily mass shootings that occur in this country uniquely. For all the excuses: mental health, no religion, bad families, etc. I say you must have a VERY poor opinion of the U.S. and believe those same issues don't exist in other countries. I don't think we are unique in having people with mental health issues, etc. We are unique in allowing assault weapons in the hands of anyone over 18.

Not sure how you're defining assault weapons, but if you mean automatic and semi-automatic rifles--most mass shootings involve handguns. Which until last year (and maybe even now) you had to be 21 to buy from a dealer.

It's incorrect that guns of any kind are legally allowed "in the hands of anyone over 18." There is a long list conditions barring people from possessing guns or ammunition.

Federal restrictions: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/prog...-firearms-laws
Indiana's restrictions: https://fox59.com/news/what-we-know-...effect-july-1/
Indiana's red flag law: https://www.in.gov/isp/indiana-jake-...-red-flag-law/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-types-used/

[kayanne]

Originally Posted by rrah

For those with all the "if we ban guns....blah, blah, blah" I didn't say ban guns. I absolutely think automatic rifles do not need to be in the hands of regular citizens. We've had an assault weapons ban before. People managed just fine. Unfortunately Bush let it expire.

I'm beyond sick of the weekly/daily mass shootings that occur in this country uniquely. For all the excuses: mental health, no religion, bad families, etc. I say you must have a VERY poor opinion of the U.S. and believe those same issues don't exist in other countries. I don't think we are unique in having people with mental health issues, etc. We are unique in allowing assault weapons in the hands of anyone over 18.

I don't know much about guns, but even I know that automatic rifles are not "in the hands of regular citizens." Most guns in the US are semi-automatic, meaning one pull of the trigger releases one bullet. The "assault weapons ban" was about aesthetics more than anything else, and unfortunately it had no beneficial effect.

I do hope you will read and learn about the meaningless term "assault weapon." Until fairly recently, I sounded a lot like you, railing against assault weapons and automatic rifles. Then I started reading about guns, and talking with gun owners, and now I know how foolish I sounded.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by kayanne

I don't know much about guns, but even I know that automatic rifles are not "in the hands of regular citizens." Most guns in the US are semi-automatic, meaning one pull of the trigger releases one bullet. The "assault weapons ban" was about aesthetics more than anything else, and unfortunately it had no beneficial effect.

I do hope you will read and learn about the meaningless term "assault weapon." Until fairly recently, I sounded a lot like you, railing against assault weapons and automatic rifles. Then I started reading about guns, and talking with gun owners, and now I know how foolish I sounded.

One of the most humble, honest posts I've ever read on here.

[Joe63]

I'm still wondering whether the Samaritan in Luke 10 pulled out his handgun. Indiana is such a Bible-reading state that there should be a closer relevance to what the Samaritan actually did for the victim. Mr. Dicken helped stop the shooting, but the term Good Samaritan does not fit.

[StcLurker]

Originally Posted by Joe63

I'm still wondering whether the Samaritan in Luke 10 pulled out his handgun. Indiana is such a Bible-reading state that there should be a closer relevance to what the Samaritan actually did for the victim. Mr. Dicken helped stop the shooting, but the term Good Samaritan does not fit.

I usually go a bit further, try Luke 22:36-38, there are of course many interpretations, but my take on it is: one should be able to defend themselves and others

[kayanne]

Originally Posted by Joe63

I'm still wondering whether the Samaritan in Luke 10 pulled out his handgun. Indiana is such a Bible-reading state that there should be a closer relevance to what the Samaritan actually did for the victim. Mr. Dicken helped stop the shooting, but the term Good Samaritan does not fit.

The term "Good Samaritan" has long been used for anyone who takes the time and effort to help a stranger. This man definitely fits the description. I can't imagine why you would nitpick about the word being used to describe this man. He risked his life to save many.

And before anyone asks how did he risk his life....
If he had missed the killer, the killer might have immediately shot him.
If police had arrived and saw him holding his gun, they might have thought he was the bad guy and shot him.

He was a hero, a Good Samaritan, a good guy with a gun, a lifesaver.