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Old 12-09-2023, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I read a book on Trump, one time, and as a CEO he didn't want any of his staff to exercise as he was afraid he'd lose one of them to a heart attack.

At 73YO, the only exercise I get is walking my ferret 8-10 blocks every night. That's it!

It's been said, use it or lose it. But, overuse it and lose it!
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Old 12-09-2023, 09:12 AM
 
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The thing that amuses me about articles like this is when people use it as a reason to defend not exercising. As if anyone here is in danger of overtraining.
Walking 2 miles five days per week puts you in zero categories of overtraining.
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Old 12-09-2023, 09:25 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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The thing that amuses me about articles like this is when people use it as a reason to defend not exercising. As if anyone here is in danger of overtraining.
Walking 2 miles five days per week puts you in zero categories of overtraining.
Exactly! If you're running over a 100 miles/week, you might be overtraining.
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Old 12-09-2023, 09:39 AM
 
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It's been said, use it or lose it. But, overuse it and lose it!
Agree. I think exercise has been drastically oversold and we still don't really know a lot about it. The first studies that came out said 10K steps were needed a day, but silently, studies have come out saying you need drastically less than that. Suggesting to me that the basic activities of daily living is enough. I am sure the massive fitness industry has nothing to do with the studies that suggest the more exercise the better.


Studies have been done showing that hunter gatherers in Africa have the same TDEE as an office worker in New York. Suggesting that if you do too much exercise, your body shuts systems down in order to cope. To me, that suggests that too much exercise is NOT good for you and is a stressor.
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Old 12-09-2023, 09:56 AM
 
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Agree. I think exercise has been drastically oversold and we still don't really know a lot about it. The first studies that came out said 10K steps were needed a day, but silently, studies have come out saying you need drastically less than that. Suggesting to me that the basic activities of daily living is enough. I am sure the massive fitness industry has nothing to do with the studies that suggest the more exercise the better.


Studies have been done showing that hunter gatherers in Africa have the same TDEE as an office worker in New York. Suggesting that if you do too much exercise, your body shuts systems down in order to cope. To me, that suggests that too much exercise is NOT good for you and is a stressor.
Because other than exercise there's no difference between NYC office workers and African Bushmen. Lololol
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Old 12-09-2023, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Capital Region, NY
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Something always gives. You figure you will work out or run to stay fit, and then you suffer injuries. What can be done? Just have to keep plugging along and hope for the best.

This thread reminds me of a film by Robert Redford, All Is Lost, 2013.
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Old 12-09-2023, 11:12 AM
 
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If you guys don't want to exercise, you don't need to. You don't need a study to hide behind and feel better. By all means, don't exercise.

You can control your weight through diet. Or you don't need to control your weight, eat what you like. It's your life. Live it how you think will give you the best possible enjoyment while you're on this earth.

Personally, I love exercise. To me its a privilege. It's a privilege to be able to use my body, as I love my body, and I love being mobile. When I go on vacation, I wake up early to hit the gym before my wife wakes up (I even vet the hotels by their gyms, or if there is a good gym nearby). When I'm feeling a little sick, I exercise. When I'm feeling tired, I exercise. Because I love exercising. When I cannot exercise, I feel my energy decline and my mood shift.

What is so enjoyable about sitting on the couch watching TV ? What is so enjoyable about being sedentary? Life is about moving and being dynamic. Not a hunk of immobile flesh. YMMV.
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Old 12-09-2023, 11:16 AM
 
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These "studies" are why I no longer listen to mainstream media.

Next they'll be telling us butter is a health food.
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Old 12-09-2023, 11:17 AM
 
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This is the conclusion of the study;

“Our findings support the suggestion that, rather than [exercise] per se reducing the risk of mortality, being active may be an indicator of a healthy phenotype and an overall healthy lifestyle, which co-occur with a lower mortality risk,” the report said."

So, seems like they agree that there is a mortality risk reduction.
Also, states the sedentary folks had only a 7% increased risk of mortality.
I think the title is misleading and also this is one small study whereas there are many more others to look at.
The conclusion should be "We need more studies on what the right amount of exercise is".
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Old 12-09-2023, 11:19 AM
 
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Studies have been done showing that hunter gatherers in Africa have the same TDEE as an office worker in New York. Suggesting that if you do too much exercise, your body shuts systems down in order to cope. To me, that suggests that too much exercise is NOT good for you and is a stressor.
A fatter person will almost always have a higher TDEE than a smaller, skinnier person. More weight = more energy spent supporting that weight. Your heart needs to beat more to get oxygen and blood to the extra tissue = more bpm, more energy. Which is why fatter people have higher resting heart rates than skinny, in shape people.

I don't know this study, but I have been with bushmen in Africa. Suffice to say, the average American would not be able to handle their lifestyle.
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