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Old 08-31-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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But a doctor prescribes a drug that has a 98% chance of working and only a 2% risk of a side effect and an unreasonably anxious & naïve patient runs away scared. Go figure. ???
Yes, but if you or a loved one has ever been the 2% outlier, you do try to avoid even that small risk.
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Old 08-31-2018, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Yes, but if you or a loved one has ever been the 2% outlier, you do try to avoid even that small risk.
You must consider the risk of the condition being treated, though. If there is a greater than 2% risk from the disease, the benefit to risk ratio shifts in favor of the drug.
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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You must consider the risk of the condition being treated, though. If there is a greater than 2% risk from the disease, the benefit to risk ratio shifts in favor of the drug.
Or evaluate other treatments or lifestyle changes.
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Old 09-02-2018, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Or evaluate other treatments or lifestyle changes.
"Lifestyle changes", the Holy Grail of patient blaming. Doesn't work for everyone.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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"Lifestyle changes", the Holy Grail of patient blaming. Doesn't work for everyone.
Kara wasn’t “patient blaming”. Sometimes medication is the best bet, sometimes lifestyle changes are the best bet. Many people are capable of evaluating their options and working to find what works and what does not work for them.

In my case, with my daughter, lifestyle changes proved to be very effective in managing her chronic migraines. Other people might needs medication. We’re not all clones of one another and what works for some won’t work for others. It’s ok to approach health using various methods.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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Medical Mistakes? My daughter and I went to a clinic for a physical. Mine was for new employment. Daughter's was for Sports Physical. We both had to give a urine sample.

I was long past menopause, but my daughter just finished her period some days before. They said my sample showed traces of blood in the urine and said I needed more testing to see what was wrong. I threw a fit. My test for work was only supposed to be for drug testing.

After all my protests, the clinic asked me for another sample, which came back negative for any blood. So what happened? Our samples were labeled incorrectly. My daughter's was labeled as mine. There was nothing wrong with her having traces of blood in her urine after her period.

Question, Question, Question!
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Kara wasn’t “patient blaming”. Sometimes medication is the best bet, sometimes lifestyle changes are the best bet. Many people are capable of evaluating their options and working to find what works and what does not work for them.

In my case, with my daughter, lifestyle changes proved to be very effective in managing her chronic migraines. Other people might needs medication. We’re not all clones of one another and what works for some won’t work for others. It’s ok to approach health using various methods.
I have done cholesterol counseling. I have seen people struggle mightily to get their cholesterol numbers down without meds, usually with minimal, if any, success. They go on a cholesterol drug and bingo! Cholesterol drops like a stone. Of course, you are supposed to continue the dietary changes.

My friend and I walk together most mornings. Her HDL is perfect, mine is . . . not. My diet is probably better, if anything.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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I have done cholesterol counseling. I have seen people struggle mightily to get their cholesterol numbers down without meds, usually with minimal, if any, success. They go on a cholesterol drug and bingo! Cholesterol drops like a stone. Of course, you are supposed to continue the dietary changes.

My friend and I walk together most mornings. Her HDL is perfect, mine is . . . not. My diet is probably better, if anything.
We’re not just talking about cholesterol and even if we were, there are many people who have been successfull lowering their cholesterol without meds. I don’t know why this would have to be an either or scenario. In some instances, drugs work better, in others instances, lifestyle changes. It’s not a competition.
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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Kara wasn’t “patient blaming”. Sometimes medication is the best bet, sometimes lifestyle changes are the best bet. Many people are capable of evaluating their options and working to find what works and what does not work for them.

In my case, with my daughter, lifestyle changes proved to be very effective in managing her chronic migraines. Other people might needs medication. We’re not all clones of one another and what works for some won’t work for others. It’s ok to approach health using various methods.
Exactly. I admit, we are probably more vigilant in looking for the cause/trigger than others may be. It's a different way of thinking about your health. Our doctor is very happy that we never need to see him.
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