What wood you do? (Salinas, King City: house, propane, trees)

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

After one of the Oakland Hills fires about 1980 many of the Eucalyptus were cut down and were free for anyone that wanted them. I made the mistake of letting mine dry before splitting it. It was worse than using an axe on a granite boulder, hard as rock. The blade just bounced off. Eventually I did burn it, and it was hot and fast. Not good for cooking or even heat, maybe just an hour of fireplace ambience.

As to the question, if the state banned natural gas, do you think they would still allow burning wood?

They weren't cut down in my neighborhood. But there weren't any thick stands of them, just a few old ones dividing the road for a few yards. The houses along that road were very lucky to not get burned down during the fire. Just downhill from there, in a canyon, some houses did burn to the ground. The road through there was too narrow for Oakland fire trucks to get in. Just up the hill maybe a quarter mile, Berkeley had a fire truck stationed, putting out embers as they blew into properties from the Oakland border. They saved an entire neighborhood that way.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

We have a wood burning stove and cook on it all the time. We also have an outdoor fire pit for cooking. Eucalyptus is perfect for boiling water.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

As to the question, if the state banned natural gas, do you think they would still allow burning wood?

It all comes down to enforcement. It's easier to do a soft ban indirectly on NG because the state can impose restrictions on the sale of new NG appliances, etc and potentially cut off the distribution of NG itself. Nobody is going to circumvent that by making a homemade NG heater and providing a way to feed it. But burning wood is a much cruder and simpler process. How do you ban that without directly policing it?


edit: The state also imposed a ban on small propane canisters slated to go into effect a few years from now too.

[Hemlock140]

Originally Posted by joosoon

It all comes down to enforcement. It's easier to do a soft ban indirectly on NG because the state can impose restrictions on the sale of new NG appliances, etc and potentially cut off the distribution of NG itself. Nobody is going to circumvent that by making a homemade NG heater and providing a way to feed it. But burning wood is a much cruder and simpler process. How do you ban that without directly policing it?


edit: The state also imposed a ban on small propane canisters slated to go into effect a few years from now too.

Yikes, how would one use their camp stove or propane torch for copper plumbing work? I can't see carrying a 7 gallon tank under the house with me to sweat a coupling.

[Igor Blevin]

Natural gas. The cleanest burning carbon based fuel on earth.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

Yikes, how would one use their camp stove or propane torch for copper plumbing work? I can't see carrying a 7 gallon tank under the house with me to sweat a coupling.

They make an adapter to fill em. Keep your empties.

[GuyInSD]

Originally Posted by joosoon

...The state also imposed a ban on small propane canisters slated to go into effect a few years from now too.

Did this happen recently (meaning in the 2023 Session)?
Newsom (amazingly) vetoed SB-1256 (ban on disposable propane cylinders) in September, and the Bill's History doesn't show the Senate taking any action since.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by GuyInSD

Did this happen recently (meaning in the 2023 Session)?
Newsom (amazingly) vetoed SB-1256 (ban on disposable propane cylinders) in September, and the Bill's History doesn't show the Senate taking any action since.

Newsom is going to run for President so he’s not a hardcore liberal anymore. He does what he’s told …

[Thekdog]

Many cities have already banned new gas hookups and the state wants to ban new ones but 2030. Kind of like the no new ice cars thing

[NJ Brazen_3133]

Originally Posted by Suesbal

Suppose California banned gas stoves? Could you burn eucalyptus to cook your food?

Induction is pretty good


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