Is anyone else tired of hearing about how extremely liberal California is? (section 8, to rent)

[AFP]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

One can complain and not be miserable.

I complain about this state and its shortcomings all the time. I am actually very happy with my life.

Then my words don't apply to you. However there are some that resemble my remarks. I also complain occasionally that isn't what I'm talking about.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

Many people here just don't know what it is like in other places. Same with most people in those other places not know about what it is like here.

The people moving out (generally the middle class) are being replaced by immigrants in the lower classes. The total stays the same, even maybe grow, but the tax base is shrinking. The state has become more and more the wealthy and the poor.

Yes, absolutely. That could even be said for Californians about California. I never chime in about life in southern California since I haven't visited since the mid 80's. I have no desire to go so I don't know what it's like. So, to say that California is the same everywhere is simply not true.

[countrylv22]

Originally Posted by mbell75

Ummm, CA is one of the 10 most liberal states. There may be some cities or even entire counties that are more conservative (Orange County) but as a whole, CA is very liberal.

Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana Most Conservative States
How red or blue is your state? | TheHill

Thanks for the links And I agree, California is very liberal.

[Elliott_CA]

The only reason Democrats win so many elections in California is because the Republicans shifted too far to the right. Bashing immigrants, supporting unpopular wars, cutting education, and anything to do with conservative Christian politics are toxic with moderate, laid-back independent Californians. Only parts of LA and SF are truly liberal.

Moderate, centrist Republicans could easily win back the Governor's office, the legislature, and statewide offices. But they can't because the Tea Party and the hardliners vote against them in the primaries. For the most part Democrats don't win elections, the Republicans lose them.

[spicymeatball]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

The only reason Democrats win so many elections in California is because the Republicans shifted too far to the right. Bashing immigrants, supporting unpopular wars, cutting education, and anything to do with conservative Christian politics are toxic with moderate, laid-back independent Californians. Only parts of LA and SF are truly liberal.

Moderate, centrist Republicans could easily win back the Governor's office, the legislature, and statewide offices. But they can't because the Tea Party and the hardliners vote against them in the primaries. For the most part Democrats don't win elections, the Republicans lose them.

I agree with you, California is moderately conservative but hasn't quite reached the moon battery that states like Arizona and Indiana have because San Francisco has been keeping them in check.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

Life is more complex than packing up and leaving. You know that.

It really isn't. Unless you make it that way.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by spicymeatball

I think the love it or leave it people tend to either not be very smart, or they are wealthy and assume it would be as easy for anyone to leave as it would be for themselves. You need thousands of dollars to move to another state, it can take years or even over a decade or many people to save that much when they are living paycheck to paycheck.

Only if you live a needlessly over complicated life.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by Elliott_CA

The only reason Democrats win so many elections in California is because the Republicans shifted too far to the right. Bashing immigrants, supporting unpopular wars, cutting education, and anything to do with conservative Christian politics are toxic with moderate, laid-back independent Californians. Only parts of LA and SF are truly liberal.

Moderate, centrist Republicans could easily win back the Governor's office, the legislature, and statewide offices. But they can't because the Tea Party and the hardliners vote against them in the primaries. For the most part Democrats don't win elections, the Republicans lose them.

So ca is moderate conservative besides a whole bunch of mischaracterized conservative policies?

Most republicans in this state are socially centrists or even liberal. It doesn't make a difference. The only thing most voters need to see is the "D" next to the name. A perfect example is how Leland Yee 10% in the democrat primary last year after being arrested for gun running and other corruption charges. He placed 3rd out of 8 people running, FYI.

Maybe one day they will remove party affiliation from the ballot and a republican that is not a movie star or even an independent could be elected to a state wide office.

[spicymeatball]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Only if you live a needlessly over complicated life.

If having a roof over your head is needlessly complicated, than yeah. Unfortunately most rental places now expect you to have 2 months' worth of rent in your pocket before they even consider allowing you to rent, so yes thousands of dollars are absolutely necessary to buffer yourself while looking for a place, and in order to pay the deposit.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

It really isn't. Unless you make it that way.

Let me tell my parents that I am leaving the area, I'll do that right after I say goodby to my 80 year old grandfather that is in and out of the hospital on what seems like a bi monthly basis, my wife will certainly be happy to leave her entire family behind or it might be me leaving her behind.

It really is, at least for anyone not living on a boat.