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Old 05-03-2024, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Troy, Michigan
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Hi everyone,

I am American who was watching an older news story from a few years ago where they had an Australian flag on their property. It said the "body corporate" wanted it removed. I was curious, was that terminology a Homeowners Association (HOA) like we have in the United States or might this likely have been referring to a local government authority? Not certain the outcome of the case, it's a few years old. The story talked about them getting approval in years prior. Are there HOAs in Australia? I personally find the idea of them abhorrent though I understand their benefits.
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Old 05-03-2024, 03:01 PM
 
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Hi everyone,

I am American who was watching an older news story from a few years ago where they had an Australian flag on their property. It said the "body corporate" wanted it removed. I was curious, was that terminology a Homeowners Association (HOA) like we have in the United States or might this likely have been referring to a local government authority? Not certain the outcome of the case, it's a few years old. The story talked about them getting approval in years prior. Are there HOAs in Australia? I personally find the idea of them abhorrent though I understand their benefits.
I would think the flag was not actually on their property it was on common property. Stratas/body corporates manage common property in a block of units and would be the comparable to an HOA. HOAs, the sort that tell people how long the grass has to be on their lawn in their house don't really exist in Australia because gated communities (estates) of freestanding homes are not at all common.
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Old 05-03-2024, 10:19 PM
 
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Interesting, thanks, The flag was placed in their back yard. The husband was in the RAAF in years past. I have no idea if there would be easements or common space in the back. There also seemed to be issues with the neighbor. Was surprised to hear these organizations also exist in Australia. All very interesting. Don't know the current situation.

https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-a...e-466cd59045e3
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Old 05-04-2024, 02:03 AM
 
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Looks like they could be freestanding townhouses, not houses on separately owned blocks of land. They’re not that uncommon in some cities, particularly for retirement “villages.”
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Old 05-04-2024, 07:14 PM
 
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Not unusual in such settings I fear. The flying of the flag, does appear just an excuse for other reasons, which don't have to be very much in order to antagonise the couple , possibly to the degree that they will move.

"Other reasons' was indeed mentioned in the article. All the more reason why people need to tread with care, moving into such a facility. Or indeed anywhere with a shared wall , town house setting with or without a body corporate. I speak from experience. There is no accounting for the small and narrow thinking or illogical niggles of people and entitlement issues or indeed can be due to the undertaking of things best wished hushed up.

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Old 05-05-2024, 07:07 PM
 
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Interesting, thanks, The flag was placed in their back yard. The husband was in the RAAF in years past. I have no idea if there would be easements or common space in the back. There also seemed to be issues with the neighbor. Was surprised to hear these organizations also exist in Australia. All very interesting. Don't know the current situation.

https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-a...e-466cd59045e3
Yeah, installing permanent fixtures is generally not allowed. There's no real way to get around a strata/HOA where you have multiple property owners on a single piece of land. It would be impossible to manage otherwise.
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Old Yesterday, 04:00 PM
 
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A flag flying on a windy day would be pretty noisy; not just the "flapping" of the flag but also intermittent contact between the halyard and the pole.
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Old Today, 07:02 PM
 
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Really Australia begs believe these days in what people find as irritants. The' big issues' go un/under reported . Forums are a fairly typical example of this.
But as for strata title properties, I have only experience renting in one some twenty years back. I experienced no problem, but a neighbour did so with her lovely array of pot plants outside , which over time was deemed a possible hazard, if fire brigade required rapid access in time of emergency. (although there was ample room and situation was in place longer than a year before some one raised the issue at a meeting. Most complaints were around costs required such as replacing all wooden stairways and the like.

In a villa type situation, not sure if I can see an issue with a properly secured flag to a pole. Indeed in many countries in Europe for example this can be the norm. Denmark comes to mind.

Although not something I would do, have we become really such a small focused country that will give time to such trivial things?
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