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Old 04-18-2024, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Amelia Island/Rhode Island
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Again, this isn't the Disney forum.

It's also not a place for you to promote RI while you presumably anxiously await a RI real estate inheritance.

You've worn out your welcome here.
How do you come up with these wild accusations? Why is everything so personal with you? These personal attacks on posters are uncalled for.
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Old 04-19-2024, 04:52 AM
 
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Of course this is correct. One Rhode Island crime thread for all crime discussions. Attention Moderator: we need this.
Yes, attention Moderator, please consider.
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Old 04-19-2024, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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How do you come up with these wild accusations? Why is everything so personal with you? These personal attacks on posters are uncalled for.
They can't support arguments with evidence or logic (as is plainly obvious) and they spend way too much time thinking about the personal lives of other CD members. So since they can't make reasoned points on their own, they try to discredit other posters by making up narratives about them and implying sinister intentions. Every single person who posts regularly on the RI forum and disagrees with them on a topic has at least one narrative made up about them. It's almost like a very creepy right of passage. So... congratulations, I guess.
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Old 04-19-2024, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Amelia Island/Rhode Island
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I don’t understand their logic or the need to spread such inaccuracies about so many cities and towns.

Pawtucket like other areas are trying to pull themselves up and reinvent themselves. So many community’s in Rhode Island were so dependent on the long gone, industrial, textile and jewelry industries and they should be commended for their efforts.

These two posters definitely don’t know or have the knowledge of Rhode Island’s rich history or the thousands of jobs that these cities and towns depended on that just vanished.
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Old 04-19-2024, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I don’t understand their logic or the need to spread such inaccuracies about so many cities and towns.

Pawtucket like other areas are trying to pull themselves up and reinvent themselves. So many community’s in Rhode Island were so dependent on the long gone, industrial, textile and jewelry industries and they should be commended for their efforts.

These two posters definitely don’t know or have the knowledge of Rhode Island’s rich history or the thousands of jobs that these cities and towns depended on that just vanished.
I don't understand the motive either. They're living in a crime fantasy world (at points, even making up their own fan fiction about other members) and seem to have a real axe to grind. As has been pointed out, there's no room for nuance with them. It's all ham-handed, broad brush strokes, "BAD BAD BAD!" And if you have the audacity to even imply that there may be a more nuanced way to look at it, then prepare to have a story made up about you.

Pawtucket's a great example. It's a way past-its-prime mill town that's been in rough shape for decades. Like former industrial towns, it's no stranger to crime, drugs, and blight. Beauty is subjective, but not many people would argue that Pawtucket is a "pretty" place. However, the place has shown some clear signs of life in recent years. There's significant (and growing) private investment taking place - from new small businesses to large scale residential developments. It may not be an industrial powerhouse anymore, but it has a brand new rail station, is more affordable than Boston and nearby Providence, and has some good urban bones and neat spaces at reasonable prices which is appealing to many. As both Boston and Providence become more expensive, it'll be hard for Pawtucket not to continue to become a more and more appealing option for people.

But yeah, if you dare point out on CD the very real positive changes happening in Pawtucket now and the potential for the future, be prepared to be personally attacked, have stories made up about you, and be bombarded with urban dictionary definitions links to articles about crimes that have happened there.
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Old 04-19-2024, 08:12 AM
 
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They can't support arguments with evidence or logic (as is plainly obvious) and they spend way too much time thinking about the personal lives of other CD members. So since they can't make reasoned points on their own, they try to discredit other posters by making up narratives about them and implying sinister intentions. Every single person who posts regularly on the RI forum and disagrees with them on a topic has at least one narrative made up about them. It's almost like a very creepy right of passage. So... congratulations, I guess.
Yes, a creepy right of passage. As the forum "slumlord" I have the honor of being one of the first to get the narrative lie. Especially rich since I have never owned rental property in my long life.
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Old 04-19-2024, 08:33 AM
 
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I don't understand the motive either. They're living in a crime fantasy world (at points, even making up their own fan fiction about other members) and seem to have a real axe to grind. As has been pointed out, there's no room for nuance with them. It's all ham-handed, broad brush strokes, "BAD BAD BAD!" And if you have the audacity to even imply that there may be a more nuanced way to look at it, then prepare to have a story made up about you.

Pawtucket's a great example. It's a way past-its-prime mill town that's been in rough shape for decades. Like former industrial towns, it's no stranger to crime, drugs, and blight. Beauty is subjective, but not many people would argue that Pawtucket is a "pretty" place. However, the place has shown some clear signs of life in recent years. There's significant (and growing) private investment taking place - from new small businesses to large scale residential developments. It may not be an industrial powerhouse anymore, but it has a brand new rail station, is more affordable than Boston and nearby Providence, and has some good urban bones and neat spaces at reasonable prices which is appealing to many. As both Boston and Providence become more expensive, it'll be hard for Pawtucket not to continue to become a more and more appealing option for people.

But yeah, if you dare point out on CD the very real positive changes happening in Pawtucket now and the potential for the future, be prepared to be personally attacked, have stories made up about you, and be bombarded with urban dictionary definitions links to articles about crimes that have happened there.

The reader needs to understand that around here, "nuance" has become sort of a code word for denying a harsh reality that exists in a place. Kind of like a real estate ad that says "walk to everything" (cough cough, it's in the hood), or "cozy" (cough cough, it's shoe box sized). Very commonly used here by slumlords and their ilk to denigrate and devalue those who dare to tell certain truths.
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Old 04-19-2024, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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The reader needs to understand that around here, "nuance" has become sort of a code word for denying a harsh reality that exists in a place. Kind of like a real estate ad that says "walk to everything" (cough cough, it's in the hood), or "cozy" (cough cough, it's shoe box sized). Very commonly used here by slumlords and their ilk to denigrate and devalue those who dare to tell certain truths.
The reader needs to understand that this is exactly what I'm talking about. It has it all, right down to the implication that anyone who disagrees is a "slumlord or their ilk" (with no evidence other than their own assumptions, of course). Massnative simply cannot comprehend that someone could possibly see anything positive about a place like Pawtucket. And as for "denying the reality of a place," well this is right there in the post he quoted:

"Pawtucket's a great example. It's a way past-its-prime mill town that's been in rough shape for decades. Like former industrial towns, it's no stranger to crime, drugs, and blight. Beauty is subjective, but not many people would argue that Pawtucket is a "pretty" place."

To Massnative, who clearly doesn't understand what the word "nuance" means, that's "denying the harsh reality that exists in a place." As many of us have said repeatedly, these two crime fanatics are absolutely and completely triggered by any post that doesn't just completely trash an area that they have determined is "bad." To them, it's not at all possible to both acknowledge a place's shortcomings and also be enthusiastic about positive momentum today and potential for the future.
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Old 04-19-2024, 09:00 AM
 
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The reader needs to understand that this is exactly what I'm talking about. It has it all, right down to the implication that anyone who disagrees is a "slumlord or their ilk" (with no evidence other than their own assumptions, of course). Massnative simply cannot comprehend that someone could possibly see anything positive about a place like Pawtucket. And as for "denying the reality of a place," well this is right there in the post he quoted:

"Pawtucket's a great example. It's a way past-its-prime mill town that's been in rough shape for decades. Like former industrial towns, it's no stranger to crime, drugs, and blight. Beauty is subjective, but not many people would argue that Pawtucket is a "pretty" place."

To Massnative, who clearly doesn't understand what the word "nuance" means, that's "denying the harsh reality that exists in a place." As many of us have said repeatedly, these two crime fanatics are absolutely and completely triggered by any post that doesn't just completely trash an area that they have determined is "bad." To them, it's not at all possible to both acknowledge a place's shortcomings and also be enthusiastic about positive momentum today and potential for the future.

The transplants don't understand that the same people have been saying this for at least 30 years.
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Old 04-19-2024, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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The transplants don't understand that the same people have been saying this for at least 30 years.
The Massnatives don't understand that things in 2024 are not the same as they were 30 years ago (when I also lived in Rhode Island).
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