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Old 04-14-2024, 04:11 PM
 
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What is the difference between love and longing?
Longing is a thought that manifests as emotion.
What is love?
Longing is painful.
Love just is.
What are your thoughts?
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Old 04-14-2024, 06:17 PM
 
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What is the difference between love and longing?
Longing is a thought that manifests as emotion.
What is love?
Longing is painful.
Love just is.
What are your thoughts?
Love is a desire for the presence of the object of love. Longing is the reaction to its absence, IMO.
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Old 04-15-2024, 11:49 AM
 
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Love is a desire for the presence of the object of love. Longing is the reaction to its absence, IMO.
Love is our nature, it is a presence, always the same. Longing is the emotional response to possess the object of love for oneself. When the longing dissolves love remains.
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Old 04-15-2024, 01:45 PM
 
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What is the difference between love and longing?
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What is the difference between love and longing?
Longing is a thought that manifests as emotion.
What is love?
Longing is painful.
Love just is.
What are your thoughts?
Love is a deep affection for persons in our lives whereas longing (relative to such) could be described as missing the presence of a romantic partner. Longing can be painful if the source of desire is beyond one’s reach (as in death or the absence of an ex), but it can also be the impetus to heal.

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Love is our nature, it is a presence, always the same.
While we have a fundamental desire for love, it is not always the same whether it be platonic, familial or romantic. Romantic love (or at least the relationship) is a choice as your actions (and theirs) determine if it lives on or not.
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Old 04-15-2024, 07:50 PM
 
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Love is a deep affection for persons in our lives whereas longing (relative to such) could be described as missing the presence of a romantic partner. Longing can be painful if the source of desire is beyond one’s reach (as in death or the absence of an ex), but it can also be the impetus to heal.



While we have a fundamental desire for love, it is not always the same whether it be platonic, familial or romantic. Romantic love (or at least the relationship) is a choice as your actions (and theirs) determine if it lives on or not.
Love is just one. It is the same whether expressed for a child, adult, a pet, or stranger far away. it is the basis of compassion and empathy. It is expressed for the other for the sake of happiness for the self, it connects us to the world.
Longing is emotion formed in the mind, it causes separation and thus sadness. It is not our nature to be sad and be seperate. it is a state of imbalance.
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Old 04-16-2024, 07:43 AM
 
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Love is a deep affection for persons in our lives whereas longing (relative to such) could be described as missing the presence of a romantic partner. Longing can be painful if the source of desire is beyond one’s reach (as in death or the absence of an ex), but it can also be the impetus to heal.

While we have a fundamental desire for love, it is not always the same whether it be platonic, familial or romantic. Romantic love (or at least the relationship) is a choice as your actions (and theirs) determine if it lives on or not.
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Love is just one. It is the same whether expressed for a child, adult, a pet, or stranger far away. it is the basis of compassion and empathy. It is expressed for the other for the sake of happiness for the self, it connects us to the world.
Longing is emotion formed in the mind, it causes separation and thus sadness. It is not our nature to be sad and be seperate. it is a state of imbalance.
Why did you ask our thoughts if you were going to shut down discussion relative to your own thread with the same inaccurate, robotic statement that appears to be, once again, preaching re: ‘imbalance’ and eastern religions. That said, enjoy!
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Old 04-16-2024, 09:47 AM
 
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Romantic love is tough because its hormone driven and completely conditional and has a very high failure rate.
yes. love is unconditional.
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Old 04-16-2024, 10:00 AM
 
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Romantic love is tough because its hormone driven and completely conditional and has a very high failure rate.
If it were (only) hormonally-driven, it wouldn’t be ‘completely conditional’. That said, I agree romantic love is conditional; some folks ignore that reality relative to our fundamental desire for love. They use it as a reason to endure abuse, incompatibility, mistreatment and so on when it’s simply a matter of their own dysfunction - not love.
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Old 04-16-2024, 11:35 AM
 
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If it were (only) hormonally-driven, it wouldn’t be ‘completely conditional’. That said, I agree romantic love is conditional; some folks ignore that reality relative to our fundamental desire for love. They use it as a reason to endure abuse, incompatibility, mistreatment and so on when it’s simply a matter of their own dysfunction - not love.
Love is unconditional, period. It has no color. The superimposition of romance, maternal, brotherly etc has little relevance, it is all just love, and it is natural. We express love because it is our nature.
This is the philosophy forum, we are not discussing religion, eastern, western, southern or any kind. There is a forum for that. I suggest you post there since you keep bringing up religion a lot.
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Old 04-17-2024, 06:54 PM
 
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I would say that love can be a topic of discovery where a person considers if the feeling of longing is a sign of love or of wanting love.
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