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The Galactic Emperor of Wyoming (retired) wishes to explain the dilemma.
_ _ Under the original republican form of government, all men are created equal (before the law) with Creator endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure - not tax, regulate nor trespass. Only by explicit consent of the governed, could the public servants do more than adjudicate disputes, prosecute criminals, and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. (Good!)
_ _ But since 1933, the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republics of America have been in business, using consent fraudulently obtained, to rule, tax, and confiscate from the hapless muggles.
_ _ The hardy folks in the hinterlands wished to exercise their natural and personal liberties, as their ancestors had done. But the influx of migratory socialists who liked government to impose compulsory charity and confiscation of surplus, are causing a kerfluffle. Recipients always prefer that government imposes slavery and steals for their benefit. But that is an abomination and a perversion of the original recipe for American government. Ergo, the consternation and clashes between mutually antagonistic groups.
_ _ There is a remedy, but it’s unpalatable and politically incorrect. It involves reading law (“blood squirting out of my eyeballs!”) and with that knowledge, effectively withdraw consent from the PDSRA, restoring all Creator endowed rights (that are immune from servant government).
_ _ This restoration of rights has the side effect of drastically slashing tax revenues as well as subjects to rule (no government instituted to secure endowed rights can tax them). This, in turn, causes government to downsize, as it eliminates jobs, benefits, bribes, graft and corruption. (Ironically, that was the original intent of the Founders - keep government lean and mean. They knew the “secret rule” of all government - Grow or die. Every government seeks to find an excuse to spend more, tax more, borrow more, hire more. How else does one gain wealth and power?)
_ _ When the revenues are reduced to 3-4% of current levels, no matter who is elected, there’s little mischief that they can get into.
_ _ When that day comes, it will be a national tragedy when the president loses his bus pass.
_ _ On the other hand, there is a benefit to having "good neighbors" who can help you when unforeseen emergencies occur. So it's not entirely a bad thing to have new folks show up in the neighborhood.
The Galactic Emperor of Wyoming (retired) wishes to explain the dilemma.
_ _ Under the original republican form of government, all men are created equal (before the law) with Creator endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure - not tax, regulate nor trespass. Only by explicit consent of the governed, could the public servants do more than adjudicate disputes, prosecute criminals, and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. (Good!)
_ _ But since 1933, the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republics of America have been in business, using consent fraudulently obtained, to rule, tax, and confiscate from the hapless muggles.
_ _ The hardy folks in the hinterlands wished to exercise their natural and personal liberties, as their ancestors had done. But the influx of migratory socialists who liked government to impose compulsory charity and confiscation of surplus, are causing a kerfluffle. Recipients always prefer that government imposes slavery and steals for their benefit. But that is an abomination and a perversion of the original recipe for American government. Ergo, the consternation and clashes between mutually antagonistic groups.
_ _ There is a remedy, but it’s unpalatable and politically incorrect. It involves reading law (“blood squirting out of my eyeballs!”) and with that knowledge, effectively withdraw consent from the PDSRA, restoring all Creator endowed rights (that are immune from servant government).
_ _ This restoration of rights has the side effect of drastically slashing tax revenues as well as subjects to rule (no government instituted to secure endowed rights can tax them). This, in turn, causes government to downsize, as it eliminates jobs, benefits, bribes, graft and corruption. (Ironically, that was the original intent of the Founders - keep government lean and mean. They knew the “secret rule” of all government - Grow or die. Every government seeks to find an excuse to spend more, tax more, borrow more, hire more. How else does one gain wealth and power?)
_ _ When the revenues are reduced to 3-4% of current levels, no matter who is elected, there’s little mischief that they can get into.
_ _ When that day comes, it will be a national tragedy when the president loses his bus pass.
_ _ On the other hand, there is a benefit to having "good neighbors" who can help you when unforeseen emergencies occur. So it's not entirely a bad thing to have new folks show up in the neighborhood.
"republican government" was an earlier big step away from autocracy; and as steps such as the Magna Carta or the US Constitution were not deemed sufficient and inclusive or effective enough by the governed, other steps followed.
There are those who wish to go back to US before 1932 or before women, minorities or non-landowners or non-large landowners had a vote or much if any recognized self-right at all (with religion as practiced not recognizing self-right until some wrested some of it from the Civil, religious or civil / religious leaders) , but most don't... and won't go back in fact or in effect to low or no respect, rights and protections.
Republican institutions have evolved as the governed woke to self-respect, self-action and self-service of mostly reasonable desires. Yes the population can and will want a lot and not all possible, wise or fair but it will strive and try to sort it out in the face of the remaining powers and force of various oligarchies, including hundreds billionaires and soon trillionaires and would be Kings and dictators.
The reforms of 1932 to 1936 were voted in by the majority vote of the governed in 1932 and again in 1936 and again in 1940 and 1944 and 1948 and about half the time since.
If the US before 1932 "worked" adequately for the majority, the Democratic Party wouldn't have won 5 times in a row. If north america worked adequately in 1750 or 1800 or 1859, it might not have had to evolve. If England in 900 or 500 AD was fair or adequate, it might not have evolved. Was life fair or adequate in 5,000 or 50,000 BC or moreso than later? I dunno. But I do know history has seen change. A march of change, toward more democracy. Like it or agree with it or not. Is the march done, stalled or in for reverses? We are living in a time for sorting that out. Not unlike past times in that general sense even if the terms if the fight are different now.
"the original republican form of government, all men are created equal (before the law)"
Which republican government was that? It wasnt true in 1776 or 1783. It was more that in 1920 than before. More that of 1968 than 1859 or 1899. Which level of republican government, which we still have on top of federalism and local government, was enough, no more need of change? To you it was 1931? Not to me or most. Voting rights, respected voting rights, for all adults over 18 took in the 1970s and they are still under illegal attacks and occasional right-wing outright rollback threats.
Since 1783, the Republic of mostly the most wealthy in America have been in business, using consent obtained with various govermental and commercial and social devices to rule, tax, and confiscate from the somewhat hapless muggles.
Somewhat hapless muggles who step by step got fed up and fought back and won some but not enough victories, yet.
Neglect and outright hostility and violence against the common American under nearly 70 years of Republican dominant rule from 1865 to 1932 lead to the Democratic surge of 5 straight Presidential majorities and widespread victories at other levels.
What will 2024, 2028, 2032 and beyond bring? I don't know for sure nationally. In Montana and Wyoming, I am pretty sure of direction, but not sure how aggressive the direction will be or how much of a brake will be attempted or successful by some in disagreement or outrage.
"republican government" was an earlier big step away from autocracy; and as steps such as the Magna Carta or the US Constitution were not deemed sufficient and inclusive or effective enough by the governed, other steps followed.
There are those who wish to go back to US before 1932 or before women, minorities or non-landowners or non-large landowners had a vote or much if any recognized self-right at all (with religion as practiced not recognizing self-right until some wrested some of it from the Civil, religious or civil / religious leaders) , but most don't... and won't go back in fact or in effect to low or no respect, rights and protections.
Republican institutions have evolved as the governed woke to self-respect, self-action and self-service of mostly reasonable desires. Yes the population can and will want a lot and not all possible, wise or fair but it will strive and try to sort it out in the face of the remaining powers and force of various oligarchies, including hundreds billionaires and soon trillionaires and would be Kings and dictators.
The reforms of 1932 to 1936 were voted in by the majority vote of the governed in 1932 and again in 1936 and again in 1940 and 1944 and 1948 and about half the time since.
If the US before 1932 "worked" adequately for the majority, the Democratic Party wouldn't have won 5 times in a row. If north america worked adequately in 1750 or 1800 or 1859, it might not have had to evolve. If England in 900 or 500 AD was fair or adequate, it might not have evolved. Was life fair or adequate in 5,000 or 50,000 BC or moreso than later? I dunno. But I do know history has seen change. A march of change, toward more democracy. Like it or agree with it or not. Is the march done, stalled or in for reverses? We are living in a time for sorting that out. Not unlike past times in that general sense even if the terms if the fight are different now.
"the original republican form of government, all men are created equal (before the law)"
Which republican government was that? It wasnt true in 1776 or 1783. It was more that in 1920 than before. More that of 1968 than 1859 or 1899. Which level of republican government, which we still have on top of federalism and local government, was enough, no more need of change? To you it was 1931? Not to me or most. Voting rights, respected voting rights, for all adults over 18 took in the 1970s and they are still under illegal attacks and occasional right-wing outright rollback threats.
Since 1783, the Republic of mostly the most wealthy in America have been in business, using consent obtained with various govermental and commercial and social devices to rule, tax, and confiscate from the somewhat hapless muggles.
Somewhat hapless muggles who step by step got fed up and fought back and won some but not enough victories, yet.
Neglect and outright hostility and violence against the common American under nearly 70 years of Republican dominant rule from 1865 to 1932 lead to the Democratic surge of 5 straight Presidential majorities and widespread victories at other levels.
What will 2024, 2028, 2032 and beyond bring? I don't know for sure nationally. In Montana and Wyoming, I am pretty sure of direction, but not sure how aggressive the direction will be or how much of a brake will be attempted or successful by some in disagreement or outrage.
As this reply illustrates, few Americans can accurately define the republican form, its source and origin.
In fact, under the republican form there is NO VOTING.
Voting and holding office is only for those who consent to the DEMOCRATIC FORM. And that choice comes with MANDATORY CIVIC DUTIES that abrogate all endowed rights. (It's right in the end of the Declaration of Independence, in case you're curious)
The Founders pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor (in obedience) to the governments instituted to secure the Creator endowed rights of the people (non-citizens). All subsequent citizens are presumed to have made the same pledge.
Ex: Militia duty - the obligation to train, fight, and die on command - is an abrogation of the right to life and liberty. But since it only applies to citizens, no harm - no foul.
DO NOT BELIEVE ME - go read the law available at any county courthouse law library.
Under the modern republican form, the people choose their leaders, who then variously make / vote on policy, implement it and interpret it and select others as necessary to make, implement and interpret policy. The means of choosing leaders has evolved over long time and in modern time. There is no need to debate how leaders are chosen in this country, in this democratic republic, in these times anymore. It is by the VOTE of the registered voters for EVERY designated public office in every election forever, unless some level of disenfranchisement occurs.
To speak of THE PEOPLE as "non-citizens", as done above, is to speak in 18th century or before terms, only done by those caught up in past and perhaps with hostility to the people and to the modern republic where the natural born and naturalized are all citizens and all adults (unless disqualified for crime) can vote to elect leaders from the people / citizens. They are not segregated into a pre-modern hierachy and never will be again unless some hostile takeover happens by some or someone who refuses to accept basic political equality in this modern American democratic republic with majority rule by the people / citizens as the pillar of that republic by the founding Constitution.
If you want the "classic republic", ok that's you and that's from 1500-2500 years ago.
If one wants to look at all
historical variations of a republic, this article lays it out:
The people give power to leaders they elect to represent them and serve their interests.
The representatives are responsible for helping all the people in the country, not just a few people."
The Federalist No. 39 (James Madison); see also The Federalist No. 22 (Alexander Hamilton) “[T]he fundamental maxim of republican government . . . requires that the sense of the majority should prevail.” ); The Federalist No. 57 (James Madison) ( “The elective mode of obtaining rulers is the characteristic policy of republican government.” ).
Since 1933, as before, and as it should always be, the United States of America have been in business using consent legitimately obtained from the people. Attempts to overthrow the democratic republic in 2021 failed and will be resisted.
The self-given title of The Galactic Emperor of Wyoming belies belief in republic or at least the republic we have.
OR, more likely you've got a few million just burning a hole in your pocket and you can afford to buy, scrape, and build ...
Can't even show a picture of the inside but it has lovely scenery. PT Barnum said it best. But hey, who needs money with million dollar views like that.
That property's price is apparently driven heavily by the property location. IF sold, at whatever price, the house will almost certainly be torn down.
Last edited by NW Crow; 03-10-2024 at 12:18 PM..
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