WFH in MA (insurance, mover, vs)

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by simplexsimon

State Street seems to have evidence that more remote work and lower productivity are correlated. There might be confounding factors that weaken the argument for remote work causing lower productivity, but they're trying to control the "experiment" by making people come back.

Did they show their employees proof of this?

Again I know people at state street who were WFH before covid.

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by PureBoston

I'm starting to see the wisdom of WFH. Specifically, less cars on the road burning less fossil fuel. Employee convenience, to a lesser degree. I can't help but wonder though if it says anything about the strength or resiliency of the American economy that so many job consist of a computer screen. I'm a retired firefighter driving a school bus and my daughter's a nurse. Can't phone our jobs in.

The upside is that you both probably have more job security than WFH folks! Those will always be in demand careers, esp nursing due to aging population and the number of docs/nurses retiring.....not enough new ones getting into the field to replace them.

[simplexsimon]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Did they show their employees proof of this?

Again I know people at state street who were WFH before covid.

I'm not sure what exact metrics they shared with employees. From what I heard they did disclose that regions outside the U.S. with more people in-office were more productive (by whatever measure they used).

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by msrb311

how do you know that they manage just fine? Lol. Maybe their lives would be a heck of a lot better if they didn't have to deal with a commute.

+1

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by robr2

I presume the ride was similar in the before times - was it worth it then?

The big question for everyone is:

• if your employer told you to be onsite X number of days per week, would you find a new job?

Answer to your second question, yes!

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by simplexsimon

I'm not sure what exact metrics they shared with employees. From what I heard they did disclose that regions outside the U.S. with more people in-office were more productive (by whatever measure they used).

and you believe what they're saying?

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by redplum33

Ya think?




You are one of the people who routinely complain about all the free stuff!




It seems like you were directing it personally at me. I've never worked for anyone or spent a single day in an office.

The vast majority of WFH jobs were not WFH prior to covid. For people who have no concerns about covid, I think they probably should be back in the office. In nearly all instances, I would think they'd be far less productive with WFH. And those fighting the return to office come across to me as slackers trying to get away with continuing to be slackers.

Says someone who's never had to experience working in an office for someone else. Try that for a few years and see if your opinion changes! It likely would!

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by newenglandgal123

Says someone who's never had to experience working in an office for someone else. Try that for a few years and see if your opinion changes! It likely would!

yep it gets old and it's a grind. For many that's life though. If you do get the opportunity to WFH and you are tired of the commute grind who wouldnt take it?

[newenglandgal123]

I was talking to a sales associate as I was checking out at a retail store this weekend and they mentioned how they have 2 young kids and pay $2300/month total for daycare. I was kind of scratching my head after....normally I think of retail associates as making close to or not much more than min wage so I was wondering does this person's whole paycheck just go to pay childcare? I wanted to ask, wouldn't it make more financial sense for you to just stay home and watch the kids while wifey works? Then that begs the questions maybe he doesn't like watching the kids and would rather be out of the house even if it means his whole paycheck is basically go to childcare costs? Crazy!

[simplexsimon]

Originally Posted by msRB311

and you believe what they're saying?

About as much as I believe when people say they are just as productive WFH as in-office. Each side has their incentives...whoever has more power gets their way.