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View Poll Results: Will Christians and Jews be punished (go to hell, etc.) in the next life?
Yes, they will. 0 0%
No, they won't. 3 60.00%
It's complicated. We don't know for sure. 2 40.00%
Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 10-14-2023, 11:39 AM
 
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I have several Muslim friends and associates and they are all fine people. What I'm wondering is what Muslims believe the fate of Christians and Jews will be in the next life. For the sake of accuracy, I would appreciate it if only Muslims voted on the poll, although everyone is welcome to comment.
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:53 PM
 
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You can start with by doing your own research with Quran 2:62

In the Islamic doctrine, even many, many Muslims will end up facing the consequences of their bad actions and bad deeds done in this life - and hell is going to be their place.

And from the above verse from Quran, there will be non-Muslims (Jews, Christians etc) in the heaven.

So the gist is, we don't really know. Who goes to heaven and who goes to hell (regardless of whether they are Muslims are not), is Allah's decision.

All we can do is, use our logic and intelligence to do our research, and after we form the faith, we should try our best and hope for the best.

In the Islamic doctrine, becoming hopeless is a sin. So one should always be hopeful.
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Old 10-19-2023, 09:55 AM
 
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You can start with by doing your own research with Quran 2:62

In the Islamic doctrine, even many, many Muslims will end up facing the consequences of their bad actions and bad deeds done in this life - and hell is going to be their place.

And from the above verse from Quran, there will be non-Muslims (Jews, Christians etc) in the heaven.

So the gist is, we don't really know. Who goes to heaven and who goes to hell (regardless of whether they are Muslims are not), is Allah's decision.

All we can do is, use our logic and intelligence to do our research, and after we form the faith, we should try our best and hope for the best.

In the Islamic doctrine, becoming hopeless is a sin. So one should always be hopeful.
Thank you. I was starting to think no one was going to answer my question.
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Old 10-19-2023, 12:15 PM
 
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad,
he who amongst the community of jews or Christians hears about me,
but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent
and dies in this state (of disbelief),
he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire.
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Old 10-19-2023, 05:56 PM
 
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad,
he who amongst the community of jews or Christians hears about me,
but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent
and dies in this state (of disbelief),
he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire.
So I guess that means I'm destined for hellfire. Thanks for your response.
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Old 10-19-2023, 11:52 PM
 
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So I guess that means I'm destined for hellfire. Thanks for your response.
Nope. That’s NOT our call.
God can send anyone he wants to Heaven or Hell. And God is not answerable to anyone.

You should ALWAYS have good hopes from God and support your hope by trying to do what’s good and try to avoid what’s bad.

If you TRULY believed in Judaism then it talks about the coming of the messiah - for Christians it’s Jesus - and for Muslims it’s our prophet Muhammad (saw). I am not sure what’s the Judaism take on it as to who is the Messiah? Has he come yet or it’s a prophecy that hasn’t been fulfilled just yet?

A few years ago, I vaguely remember a prominent Rabbi passed away in Israel (Kaduri, I think?) and they showed a small note on a piece of paper where he stated that this Messiah is Jesus.
Looked somewhat unconvincing of a news to me.
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Old 10-20-2023, 04:36 PM
 
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days,
and then he becomes a clot for an other forty days,
and then a piece of flesh for an other forty days.
Then Allah sends an angel to write four words:
He writes
his deeds,
time of his death,
means of his livelihood,
and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion).
Then the soul is breathed into his body.
So a man may do deeds characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire,
so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it
,
and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses,
and so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enters Paradise
.

Similarly, a person may do deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise,
so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses,
and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (Hell) Fire and enters the (Hell) Fire.
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Old 10-20-2023, 07:29 PM
 
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days,
and then he becomes a clot for an other forty days,
and then a piece of flesh for an other forty days.
Then Allah sends an angel to write four words:
He writes
his deeds,
time of his death,
means of his livelihood,
and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion).
Then the soul is breathed into his body.
So a man may do deeds characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire,
so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it
,
and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses,
and so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enters Paradise
.

Similarly, a person may do deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise,
so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses,
and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (Hell) Fire and enters the (Hell) Fire.
I don't understand what this has to do with my question.
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Old 10-21-2023, 01:14 AM
 
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I don't understand what this has to do with my question.
i wanted to show some cases for Paradise and Hell mentioned by The final Prophet

and here more

The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
No one will enter Paradise who has an atom’s weight of arrogance in his heart.”
A man said, “What if a man likes his clothes to look good and his shoes to look good?”
He said, “Allah is beautiful and loves beauty.
arrogance means denying the truth and looking down on people.
*****
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
He who died knowing that there is no God but Allah
will enter Paradise.
*****
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
Whoever testifies that there is no God but Allah alone without any partners,
that Muhammad is His servant and His messenger,
that Jesus is the servant of Allah and His messenger,
His word which He bestowed upon Mary and a spirit from Him,
and that Paradise is the truth
and Hellfire is the truth,
then Allah will admit him into Paradise by whatever good deeds he had done.
*****
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
Whoever dies invoking anything other than Allah as a rival to Allah will enter Hell.
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Old 10-21-2023, 11:50 PM
 
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Surely, those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah, in His Messenger Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم and all that was revealed to him from Allah),
and those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians,
whosoever believed in Allah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Verily, We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent Messengers to them.
Whenever there came to them a Messenger with what they themselves desired not,
a group of them they called liars, and others among them they killed.
They thought there will be no Fitnah (trial or punishment), so they became blind and deaf; after that Allah turned to them (with Forgiveness)
yet again many of them became blind and deaf. And Allah is the All-Seer of what they do.
Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah ['Îsa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)."
But the Messiah ['Îsa (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord."
Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allah,
then Allah has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode .
And for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers) there are no helpers.
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