2 CA Streets Named Among 10 Most Coveted Addresses in America

[Veritas Vincit]

It's from a real estate website. They could make this stuff up on the spot and you wouldn't know any different. But even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they aren't just making it up, it's an incredibly challenging thing to get right.


Not only is it a highly subjective question to begin with, it's one only few people would be able to answer with any claim to having an informed opinion. Most people have never heard of those streets unless they're familiar with the local area. So who is being polled? It really needs to be a spread of local realtors or people highly familiar with local real estate *all over the country*. But a realtor in New York is unlikely to be intimately familiar with streets in San Francisco suburbs and vice versa. And of course if it comes down to the opinion of one or two realtors..they also have vested interests. A street being named in such a list which then is propagated via social media could literally put money into your pockets as a realtor. So what is the methodology to both ensure local familiarity and lack of conflicts of interest? Likely none of those factors were considered since it's not a scholarly study but a marketing tool to get people to click on the website behind it.


In other words, there's just no value in it.

[tstieber]

Originally Posted by Veritas Vincit

It's from a real estate website. They could make this stuff up on the spot and you wouldn't know any different. But even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they aren't just making it up, it's an incredibly challenging thing to get right.


Not only is it a highly subjective question to begin with, it's one only few people would be able to answer with any claim to having an informed opinion. Most people have never heard of those streets unless they're familiar with the local area. So who is being polled? It really needs to be a spread of local realtors or people highly familiar with local real estate *all over the country*. But a realtor in New York is unlikely to be intimately familiar with streets in San Francisco suburbs and vice versa. And of course if it comes down to the opinion of one or two realtors..they also have vested interests. A street being named in such a list which then is propagated via social media could literally put money into your pockets as a realtor. So what is the methodology to both ensure local familiarity and lack of conflicts of interest? Likely none of those factors were considered since it's not a scholarly study but a marketing tool to get people to click on the website behind it.


In other words, there's just no value in it.

Classic clickbait. People love rankings, and there are different ones every week.

[mattja]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

"...The folks over at Agent Advice sought to answer that question, polling 3,000 respondents to find the most aspirational streets across the country, according to a statement.

This one is for fun, but Agent Advice notes that, in places across the country, “certain streets are not just thoroughfares – they are symbols of status and sophistication.

“These destinations are the epitome of luxury, representing the highest ideals of prestige and privilege,” Agent Advice notes..."

10 Most Coveted Streets in the United States:
No. 1 Casey Key Road in Nokomis, Florida
No. 2 Laurel Way in Beverly Hills, California
No. 3 Gordon Drive in Naples, Florida
No. 4 South Ocean Boulevard in Palm Beach, Florida
No. 5 Hillside Drive in Sedona, Arizona
No. 6 West Forest Road in Vail, Colorado
No. 7 Tuxedo Road in NW Atlanta, Georgia
No. 8 Skyline Boulevard in Oakland, California
No. 9 Upper Hollow Road in Dorset, Vermont
No. 10 Nod Hill Road in Wilton, Connecticut

https://www.courant.com/2024/04/27/c...resses-in-u-s/

That's complete BS. For the CA addresses, at least. It's about the view. A house with a view like that is a sign to some that they've "made it." That's what this is about. Those homes typically have small yards and are on the side of a cliff. Great idea in earthquake and fire country.

There is nothing innately luxurious about those Oakland homes. Beverly Hills is a different animal, however.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by bad debt

I will freely admit that I don't know Oakland, but are you really going to tell me that Skyline Blvd in Oakland is more prestigious than some other view street in Piedmont? Or some street up in Marin/Tiburon/Mill Valley? Or streets in Woodside or Atherton?

Exactly. I grew up near skyline and there are lots of streets in the areas you mentioned. I’ll add Palo Alto, Los Gatos, Carmel, so many others. Op only posted it to brag about California as usual while not caring about the validity of the list.
We have streets in Sandy springs that make the homes on skyline look very mundane.

[bad debt]

Originally Posted by aslowdodge

Exactly. I grew up near skyline and there are lots of streets in the areas you mentioned. I’ll add Palo Alto, Los Gatos, Carmel, so many others. Op only posted it to brag about California as usual while not caring about the validity of the list.
We have streets in Sandy springs that make the homes on skyline look very mundane.

I don't know Sandy Springs. Must be in some flyover state?

[Hemlock140]

Originally Posted by bad debt

I will freely admit that I don't know Oakland, but are you really going to tell me that Skyline Blvd in Oakland is more prestigious than some other view street in Piedmont? Or some street up in Marin/Tiburon/Mill Valley? Or streets in Woodside or Atherton?

I would say coveted, not prestigious. There are some small courts/cul-de-sacs in those and other cities, but not a 10 mile long road like Skyline that has scenic with the entire way, and not as many houses so still plenty of trees. We have friends in Castro Valley, for example, at the end of a short cul-de-sac high on a hill with expansive views of the entire bay area below, but even next door the views are partial or none, and their home is only worth about $2 million. Piedmont is nice, and more prestigious, with a lot of old mansions with 4-5 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms at over $3 million, and only spotty views depending on the location of the house.

[bad debt]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

I would say coveted, not prestigious. There are some small courts/cul-de-sacs in those and other cities, but not a 10 mile long road like Skyline that has scenic with the entire way, and not as many houses so still plenty of trees. We have friends in Castro Valley, for example, at the end of a short cul-de-sac high on a hill with expansive views of the entire bay area below, but even next door the views are partial or none, and their home is only worth about $2 million. Piedmont is nice, and more prestigious, with a lot of old mansions with 4-5 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms at over $3 million, and only spotty views depending on the location of the house.

So would you say the equivalent in LA is Mulholland Drive?

[jcp123]

Originally Posted by GuyInSD

Oakland?!??

Skyline is up in the Oakland Hills. That’s always been a hoity-toity area. The “flatlanders” which gave Oakland its reputation don’t really hike up that way.

[Hemlock140]

Originally Posted by mattja

That's complete BS. For the CA addresses, at least. It's about the view. A house with a view like that is a sign to some that they've "made it." That's what this is about. Those homes typically have small yards and are on the side of a cliff. Great idea in earthquake and fire country.

There is nothing innately luxurious about those Oakland homes. Beverly Hills is a different animal, however.

Coveted does not mean luxurious, it means that people want to move there, so homes sell fast. It's still a matter of taste, though. I have no interest in Beverly Hills even if someone left a house there to me in a will.
Mulholland Drive is similar, with great views, but has fewer trees, more shrubs, palms and deciduous trees. When we lived in CA people like to race their cars on it, I don't know if they still do, but I know it was a really fun road to drive.

Same for Skyline, but for different reasons. Both have fire danger, I worked for the water district during the great Oakland Hills fire of 1991 when the Tunnel Rd end of Skyline was burning. The Getty fire in 2019 caused Mulholland to be evacuated but I don't remember if it actually had homes burn.

[mattja]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

Coveted does not mean luxurious, it means that people want to move there, so homes sell fast. It's still a matter of taste, though. I have no interest in Beverly Hills even if someone left a house there to me in a will.
Mulholland Drive is similar, with great views, but has fewer trees, more shrubs, palms and deciduous trees. When we lived in CA people like to race their cars on it, I don't know if they still do, but I know it was a really fun road to drive.

The quote was, "These destinations are the epitome of luxury..."

It's a nice drive, no question about that. The last time I drove Mulholland was in 2015. I noticed all the open spaces are filled in with homes and you can no longer see the city lights from most of it.

Same for Skyline, but for different reasons. Both have fire danger, I worked for the water district during the great Oakland Hills fire of 1991 when the Tunnel Rd end of Skyline was burning. The Getty fire in 2019 caused Mulholland to be evacuated but I don't remember if it actually had homes burn.

I was up in the hills off Fish Ranch Road watching the 1991 fire until the fire dept. made us leave. I was old enough to know better. lol