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Old 04-24-2024, 06:04 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Originally Posted by mysticaltyger View Post

This YouTube video did a pretty good job explaining the Homeless Industrial Complex and how it works.

… The short version: Similar to the CalWorks article, it mentions these agencies have no accountability. It goes further to say, they have no incentive to actually solve the problem. If they do, a lot of their jobs go away,

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Great catch. How this isn't obvious to anyone with a half a brain is mind-boggling.
Really? Great catch huh?

Speaking of what should be obvious (to anyone, half or full brain) … how are these “agencies” in any position to *solve* homelessness? They don’t cause homelessness. They don’t originate funds to apply.

Just what, exactly, are they able to do to *solve* the cost of real estate and housing,

… and to keep people employed by various employers?

How would these agencies exactly *solve* the problems of addictions that have plagued humanity for thousands of years?

How would these “agencies” exactly go about healing the sick of cancer and schizophrenia, psychosis, depression, PTSD, and the myriad of other diseases that decimate victims and their finances and bankrupt them?

Fill the readers in on how “agencies” should go about stopping spousal abuse and stopping families from shunning and expelling their gay children.

Tell the readers how “agencies” can stop prisons from flooding the streets with ex-cons released without a dime in their pockets.

Maybe you have some ideas about how “agencies” can stop people from growing old without savings and investments, too?

How about plain old *stupidity* that causes some people to become homeless? What can agencies do to eliminate *stupidity*?

Speaking of what should be obvious, and all …
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Old 04-24-2024, 08:20 PM
 
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For starters they should get some BLM land assigned to be a specific homeless camp area. Bring some medical care there and basic facilities (food, water, toilets, showers etc.) but keep them off our public streets in general. it's not for them to clutter up with their filth. If this is the lifestyle they've chosen, then they should be kept in a designated area OUT of the cities and OFF the streets. If there are circumstances where the homeless status doesn't involve mental health issues or drugs it would be good to have referrals available for them to find employment and once again be useful members of society.
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Old 06-01-2024, 06:48 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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REDWOOD CITY, Calif. — Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Tuesday that the state will make $3.3 billion in funding available by July to begin building inpatient and outpatient mental health treatment centers as part of a massive effort to transform California’s mental health system and address the homelessness crisis.

The money is the first tranche of a $6.4-billion bond authorized by voters when they narrowly approved Proposition 1 in March.

Newsom traveled to a new facility in San Mateo County to make the announcement — to underscore, his office said, how many more such facilities are needed and how his hard-fought mental health measure can transform care for Californians.

Newsom has framed Proposition 1 as an essential part of the state’s strategy to address the homelessness crisis. The plan includes a controversial push to compel people with severe mental illness and substance disorders into care. With the bond funding, it also makes billions of dollars available to build more beds and housing for treatment.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...al-health-beds
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Old 06-03-2024, 04:50 PM
 
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What's really happening, people, is that homeless are a *huge* cash-generating machine for the cities and California alike. I live in San Francisco and we spent nearly half of a *billion* dollars on them last year and the problem didn't go away at all. The way it works seems to be something like this - for every homeless person they spent money (let's say $50K) the state/city keep about $47K and maybe spend $3K on the actual person. Why do you think we have all those non-profits?

So with that in mind ask yourself, if the city had a huge amount of funds coming in that can feed both it and other places why would they give it up? So they do absolutely nothing to treat the root cause, just mildly alleviate the symptoms. This problem will not go away any time soon.

How many mental patient clinics can a city build with $500M? I figure quite a few. But they won't do it.
Yep, it's the Homeless Industrial Complex and is further explained in this video. And no, it's not a "right wing" channel:

Lots of people in the comments who work or know someone who works with the homeless said the video is really only the tip of the iceberg of the corruption.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNxQ8JWxWMA&t=66s
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Old 06-03-2024, 04:54 PM
 
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Whether having 1/10 homeless residents be 100% homeless prior to arriving is pretty significant and much higher than say Missouri. It also doesn’t account for drug addicts or runaways that show up in some questionable housing situation and are homeless within a few years either. The latter group are also transplants but aren’t included by the methodology used by the San Jose Mercury News.

As I said LA or SF are much higher than other parts of the state too. Read my post.

Exactly.

If you move to California and are housed for 6 months or a year and then become homeless, they probably count you as a local, even though you're really not by most people's standards.
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Old 06-03-2024, 04:57 PM
 
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Arent most people who live in California in home actually from out of state?
No, not most. But the % from out of state is almost certainly higher than the 10% claimed by homeless advocates.
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Old Today, 04:07 PM
 
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Wow. the thread started with Gov. Brown and the homeless crisis and still ol' slick salesman Newsome hasn't improved it all. It's far worse. City parks, sidewalks, benches in malls/promenades, underpasses and beaches are full of homeless people.
Yet people are happy about their avg. home price or happily pay higher rent for deteriorating conditions.

You do know what some people do who need to survive w/o housing or a job? They'll steal or commit violent crimes.
Some live like kings while others live as hobos and peasants. What a society we have.
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