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Old 05-04-2024, 08:12 AM
 
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I use to own an AQR fund. I did not find that it enhanced my performance much, if at all, over a long period of time. These funds have relatively high expenses ratios.
It’s a diversification play more than anything, non market correlated.
Returns are always, required in fact, reported after expenses so when proprietary strategies are used, expenses are secondary. The whole expense thing is a bogleism misapplied. Expenses matter only when comparing like investments such as index funds
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Old 05-04-2024, 08:14 AM
 
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It’s a diversification play more than anything, non market correlated.
Returns are always, required in fact, reported after expenses so when proprietary strategies are used, expenses are secondary. The whole expense thing is a bogleism misapplied. Expenses matter only when comparing like investments such as index funds
exactly ..

go see what your expenses are buying on margin or using options ….there is a cost to everything .

there is a cost to increasing reward vs risk after indexing.

remember these funds are not for increasing returns .

they are for increasing the rewards profile vs risk .

as an example i have been seeing 100% equity returns ytd thru the reaper with a fraction of the risk. even though its pretty much supposed to compare to 60/40 returns

and that is after fund expenses
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Old 05-08-2024, 06:04 PM
 
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I have been in both of the originally mentioned funds now for about a week and have added in that time frame as well. I am up about .75%. They react completely on their own from the market which is what I was hoping for. I’ll update over time.
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Old 05-17-2024, 08:12 AM
 
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In these now for about two weeks.
QDSNX up .97%
QLENX up 1.27%
Both up yesterday when the market was down.
Been adding to both positions.
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Old 05-17-2024, 02:36 PM
 
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i added a bunch to the carolina reaper this week and today
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Old 05-18-2024, 09:37 AM
 
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A spiritual cousin of the AQR funds are the Dimensional Funds. Both AQR and Dimensional Funds were founded by acolytes of Gene Fama at the University of Chicago. Dimensional Funds used to only be mutual funds available only through registered advisors so that we retail investors couldn't buy into them. Before the pandemic, they changed strategies and now also offer ETFs that are available to the public.

https://www.dimensional.com
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Old 05-18-2024, 09:52 AM
 
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A spiritual cousin of the AQR funds are the Dimensional Funds. Both AQR and Dimensional Funds were founded by acolytes of Gene Fama at the University of Chicago. Dimensional Funds used to only be mutual funds available only through registered advisors so that we retail investors couldn't buy into them. Before the pandemic, they changed strategies and now also offer ETFs that are available to the public.

https://www.dimensional.com
In a quick cursory look, these don’t appear to be like the AQR funds in that they are more like standard index ETFs. I may have missed it, but I don’t see the same uncorrelated to the markets strategy as AQR.
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Old 05-18-2024, 02:22 PM
 
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In a quick cursory look, these don’t appear to be like the AQR funds in that they are more like standard index ETFs. I may have missed it, but I don’t see the same uncorrelated to the markets strategy as AQR.
^^ this. I’m pretty sure they don’t offer anything comparable to AQR’s funds.
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Old 05-23-2024, 05:48 PM
 
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Both of the funds I posted are up on a down day.
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Old 05-24-2024, 02:58 AM
 
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inverse stock funds can do the same …but since markets are up 2/3s of the time and down only 1/3 that would be a poor bet .

so finding funds that are up on a down day is easy .

finding funds that are pretty much benign on the up days is the hard one
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