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Old 09-16-2023, 08:17 AM
 
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Many doctors on the internet are there because they know they can make more money selling books, supplements, and youtube channel subscriptions than they can being actual doctors. OR - they were actual doctors and had their credentials pulled. Or, they never had credentials in the first place, and they know people will buy whatever fables they make up if they present it right.

My doctor told me my cholesterol is a little high, but expected for a woman my age (I'm 62), and if I reduce my carb intake and don't gain weight, I should be fine. My triglycerides are inconsistent. Sometimes they're a little high, but usually they're right in the middle of the "normal" window.

The doctor also said if I didn't reduce my carb intake, gained weight, and my cholesterol continued to go up, he'd need to put me on a statin. So - I'm trying. Eating more salads, less bread, fewer fried foods, more baked proteins and raw or steamed vegetables with more seasoning and less sauce.

We'll see how it goes when I get my next physical.
Almost every doctor I watch online is also suggesting to reduce carbs, just like your doctor recommended. That advice has been out there a very long time. Best of luck to you. It's not hard at all.
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Old 09-16-2023, 11:16 AM
 
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I will never take a statin. Fortunately for me I don't need one (yet) so it has not been an issue.

Check out the NNT (number needed to treat) to prevent one event. . . (google it).
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Old 09-16-2023, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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Getting a heart scan is probably a good idea. Getting insurance to pay may be difficult.
As many has said upthread, reduce the carbs.

I had a small heart infarction. Minor left shoulder achiness, chest pain like some gave me moderate punch to the chest, and metallic taste (a non symptom by the docs, but IMO indicative of release of iron into the blood). I didn't know it for a few years. Only discovered the incident when the cardiologist did an EKG and saw something suspicious. Had a stent at scan. Watching another vessel which is ~75% blocked. Underlying visit to cardiologist was consistently very high triglycerides (2000) and high BP. BMI=26. Currently BMI=26, but cut off a lot of carbos and increased proteins and fat (if spouse doesn't see me).

Statins and some fibrate drugs give me severe muscle problems. Took me 2 years to figure that out. Doctors ignored issue since the literature, at that time said muscle incidence is "rare", which isn't true.
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Old 09-16-2023, 07:31 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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My cholesterol has always been borderline. Recent bloodwork showed my LDL at 146. Total cholesterol was 230. Triglycerides 153. All other levels were within norms. My diet is pretty solid and I workout regularly. Doc suggested 10mg Lipitor. Thoughts?
I take Rosuvastatin.

The problem as I see it is the triglycerides. 153 is too high.
Mine used to be 90, 2 years ago. Now it is 64. The difference is, I switched to a high protein diet. I'm talking MEAT. Pork, beef, fish - some kind of meat with every meal. Sometimes, like for breakfast, no carbs at all.
No bread. Ever. Rice, potatoes, pasta - never. No salads. Mostly just meat and vegetables. Hardly any fruit.



Works for me.
Cholestrol 134 - that's down from 180.


Ans to your question... I'd take it.
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Old 09-16-2023, 07:50 PM
 
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I take Rosuvastatin.

The problem as I see it is the triglycerides. 153 is too high.
Mine used to be 90, 2 years ago. Now it is 64. The difference is, I switched to a high protein diet. I'm talking MEAT. Pork, beef, fish - some kind of meat with every meal. Sometimes, like for breakfast, no carbs at all.
No bread. Ever. Rice, potatoes, pasta - never. No salads. Mostly just meat and vegetables. Hardly any fruit.

Works for me.
Cholestrol 134 - that's down from 180.

Ans to your question... I'd take it.
Why no salads? Aren't the ingredients for salads -- vegetables? Salads are an easy way to get most of the required 9 servings of fruit and veggies per day, in one meal. Also a good way of getting healthy oils to help counter the higher LDL. Although I saw a video on youtube that was an interview with a doctor in his 70's, who said LDL in the 140 range wasn't anything to worry about.
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Old 09-16-2023, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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FYI,
you can get your own Lipid Panel Test by self-pay @$59 at most laboratories. I get mine at the same lab as the doctor's order test. By getting own tests, you can monitor the results of your diet but don't rely on just one test result.
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Old 09-17-2023, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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I take Rosuvastatin.

The problem as I see it is the triglycerides. 153 is too high.
Mine used to be 90, 2 years ago. Now it is 64. The difference is, I switched to a high protein diet. I'm talking MEAT. Pork, beef, fish - some kind of meat with every meal. Sometimes, like for breakfast, no carbs at all.
No bread. Ever. Rice, potatoes, pasta - never. No salads. Mostly just meat and vegetables. Hardly any fruit.



Works for me.
Cholestrol 134 - that's down from 180.


Ans to your question... I'd take it.
Weird thing is if I look at the trend, I've had 3 tests done over the past couple of years and my triglycerides have gone from 178 to 69 to 153 so I have to wonder why there are such wild swings.

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FYI,
you can get your own Lipid Panel Test by self-pay @$59 at most laboratories. I get mine at the same lab as the doctor's order test. By getting own tests, you can monitor the results of your diet but don't rely on just one test result.
probably a good idea, but I'd prefer to use a different lab so I can get a view from a lab that hopefully is not trying to sell me lifelong prescriptions.

So far I have passed on taking statins.
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Old 09-17-2023, 12:31 PM
 
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Through the years my cholesterol has been high and low. I would never take statins as most of the studies only show benefits for men with previous heart attacks. I have seen what happens to people’s memories once they use them and it’s bad.
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Old 09-17-2023, 08:24 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Why no salads? Aren't the ingredients for salads -- vegetables? Salads are an easy way to get most of the required 9 servings of fruit and veggies per day, in one meal. Also a good way of getting healthy oils to help counter the higher LDL. Although I saw a video on youtube that was an interview with a doctor in his 70's, who said LDL in the 140 range wasn't anything to worry about.
I don't like them. Without being doused in manufactured oils they are tasteless. And I don't eat those oils.


I don't buy the "fruits and vegetables are necessary" idea. I do eat vegetables, but I'm a little choosy. Almost never eat fruits. Turnip greens and black eyed peas for lunch today, along with chicken.

It's just the way I like to eat, is all. Nothing processed, almost everything on my plate is single ingredient.
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Old 09-21-2023, 04:41 PM
 
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I take Rosuvastatin.

The problem as I see it is the triglycerides. 153 is too high.
Mine used to be 90, 2 years ago. Now it is 64. The difference is, I switched to a high protein diet. I'm talking MEAT. Pork, beef, fish - some kind of meat with every meal. Sometimes, like for breakfast, no carbs at all.
No bread. Ever. Rice, potatoes, pasta - never. No salads. Mostly just meat and vegetables. Hardly any fruit.



Works for me.
Cholestrol 134 - that's down from 180.


Ans to your question... I'd take it.

My triglycerides were 74 and I eat plenty of carbs. I hate meat. The texture is just gross.


Might even be improved by next time since I get more exercise these days but IDK. Don't care much either.


I am of the opinion you can only so so much and genetics is going to take over.
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